Posts by Soldier77

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An email I just recieved: Jehovah's Loving Kindness

by Soldier77 in

but it's a new king in israel .

the only one who's left of the house of jonathan is his son.

mephibosheth said 'sure: i have had hard times and i am a cripple and i don't even understand this loving kindness, but he said i'll never leave this table.'.

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Ziddina, thanks for the links. I'll look those up.

Perry, yup, absolutely, sounds so cultish. It blows me away how it came across. I want to jump up and down at the next assembly of any kiknd and just shout ARE YOU SERIOUS?! WHAT A CULT!

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Elder knocks on my door... couldn't see who it was and I opened it...

by Soldier77 in

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so an elder came to my door the other day in field circus.

i looked through the peephole to see who it was, but the way the door is situated against the sky in the background i couldn't see anything but a silhouette.

not to mention he was standing off to the side so to make it hard for anyone to see who was knocking.. so i open the door thinking it was my friend since he is the only jw that knows where i live.

steve2, couldn't agree with you more. I've seen that so many times over, one on one an elder seems like your best friend, then get him with another one and more, all bets are off, you're in deep shyte.

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Elder knocks on my door... couldn't see who it was and I opened it...

by Soldier77 in

jw
friends

so an elder came to my door the other day in field circus.

i looked through the peephole to see who it was, but the way the door is situated against the sky in the background i couldn't see anything but a silhouette.

not to mention he was standing off to the side so to make it hard for anyone to see who was knocking.. so i open the door thinking it was my friend since he is the only jw that knows where i live.

Soldier77

Thanks truthseekerIam. It's like a dark cloud that continues to hover over my head, just when I think it's over and done with, ops, here it comes again! The sad thing is that my mother knows all of this and has been through worse and yet still squaks the company line of 'trust in Jehovah', 'Jehovah will set matters straight in his due time' or 'Jehovah is using you to clean up his congregation through unusual means.' I shit you not. Quite sad how far in she's being controlled.

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Elder knocks on my door... couldn't see who it was and I opened it...

by Soldier77 in

jw
friends

so an elder came to my door the other day in field circus.

i looked through the peephole to see who it was, but the way the door is situated against the sky in the background i couldn't see anything but a silhouette.

not to mention he was standing off to the side so to make it hard for anyone to see who was knocking.. so i open the door thinking it was my friend since he is the only jw that knows where i live.

Soldier77

Thanks Mr. Flipper. I hope so too. When I was active and hung out with the other actives, he was always the cool guy with all the cool stories and some stuff that made you go, wait a minute, he didn't just say that did he?

I wonder how long it will take him to crack the facade off and see it for what it truly is.

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An email I just recieved: Jehovah's Loving Kindness

by Soldier77 in

but it's a new king in israel .

the only one who's left of the house of jonathan is his son.

mephibosheth said 'sure: i have had hard times and i am a cripple and i don't even understand this loving kindness, but he said i'll never leave this table.'.

Soldier77

Shadow, was this a talk given this year? At the District Convention of Circuit Assembly?

Ziddina, thanks for that info, wish I could have seen that. True, the history is written by the victors.

Tammy, okay, thanks, I honestly started reading it and about 5 sentences in I started to get aggrivated and started skimming and highlighting the insulting comments he was making on how worthless we are and we should stop making others feel worthless even though we are worthless and you should just STFU and sit down at the fucking table and be spoon fed this bullshit. I am thinking of not responding to the email specically, but asking them to remove me from the their email list.

Come to think of it, I've asked this person to stop emailing me over a year ago....hmmm...

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What Brought You Into the Witnesses?

by Band on the Run in

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my family was enmeshed with the wtbts for generations before my birth.

i'm certain it has been asked before but i am curious what brings others into the fold?

what was the attraction?

Soldier77

Being the unlucky winner to being born into it...

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An email I just recieved: Jehovah's Loving Kindness

by Soldier77 in

but it's a new king in israel .

the only one who's left of the house of jonathan is his son.

mephibosheth said 'sure: i have had hard times and i am a cripple and i don't even understand this loving kindness, but he said i'll never leave this table.'.

Soldier77

Oh okay, thanks for the paraphrase because I wasn't about to read it again. LOL! Okay, so in other words, STAY IN THE CULT MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA....

This email makes me ill.

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An email I just recieved: Jehovah's Loving Kindness

by Soldier77 in

but it's a new king in israel .

the only one who's left of the house of jonathan is his son.

mephibosheth said 'sure: i have had hard times and i am a cripple and i don't even understand this loving kindness, but he said i'll never leave this table.'.

Soldier77

Bots, I like having you analyse this stuff from an open mind.

Tammy, yeah, sorry I should've precluded a bit of detail. It was one of those mass forwarded email crap. I just can't stand to read it in depth, all I got out of it is the WTS saying we're all pieces of shit and you're not worthy, you're too stupid, and crippled. I'm trying to compose myself to write this person back and say something to the effect of:

'Wow, that was pretty discouraging. Nice to know that we're viewed by the society as worthless scumbags that don't deserve the free gift that was given to us. The next time you think forwarding me this kind of propaganda think twice. This was a completely negative talk if this is an actual talk, sounds a bit over the top and very condescending. '

Okay, maybe not the best thing to write back... I'm furious atm, I can't think straight.

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An email I just recieved: Jehovah's Loving Kindness

by Soldier77 in

but it's a new king in israel .

the only one who's left of the house of jonathan is his son.

mephibosheth said 'sure: i have had hard times and i am a cripple and i don't even understand this loving kindness, but he said i'll never leave this table.'.

Soldier77

JEHOVAH'S LOVING KINDNESS! (Brother Mack Mozell)

I tell you now we are going to talk about something ....
You know very little about if you will ever........ understand it.. We are going to talk about Jehovah's loving kindness!

He said: There is a new king in Israel and it's king David.. Now usually whenever there is a new king, it's a joyful time for the new king and a horrible time for the old king because all the boys in the family of the old king would be wiped out for fear they would come back for revenge or reprisal. But it's a new king in Israel . And David did something that was shocking. No other king had done this before. It's unprecedented.

Turn to second Samuel chapter 9. Look at verse 1. This is what David said and he is picturing Jehovah God. "and David proceeded to say is there anyone left over from the house of Saul that I may exercise loving kindness to him for the sake of Jonathan?"
He is looking for someone of that household to show loving kindness to.
Next verse: "Now the house of Saul had a servant whose name was Ziba. So they called him to David, and the king then said to him: 'Are you Ziba?' to which he said: 'I am your servant.'

Now what Ziba is telling him is: I am your man. I have served in a house of royalty. I know what goes on in the house of a king. I know how to run the house of a king. I know who belongs here.
Vs.. 3 'Is there nobody of the house of Saul anymore, that I may exercise toward him the loving-kindness of God?' (You see it's Jehovah's loving kindness)
At this Ziba said to the king: 'There is yet a son of Jonathan, lame in the feet..'
Vs 4 Then the king said to him: 'Where is he?' So Ziba said to the king: 'Look! He is in the house of Machir the son of Ammiel at Lo-debar.' ...
Brother said: Lodebar! that was the ghetto... No one but cripples and undesirables live there. No one else wanted to live there. Zi'ba is saying: Now hold on king! Don't go too far! I know what belongs in the house of royalty. The only one who's left of the house of Jonathan is his son. He's a cripple, he doesn't belong here. In fact he lives in Lodebar.

David said: That's the man that I am looking for. You go and get him and you bring him to this house. That's who I'm looking for to show loving kindness to. It's the loving kindness of God. Me·phibo·sheth was crippled because his nurse dropped him accidentally and from then on he was lame in both of his feet. The king is telling Zi'ba 'that's the man, go and get him because that's the man I am looking for.'
Next brother picks up a bell and says 'dinner time in David's house.'

At dinner time at David's house who would you expect to see? Who dines at the table of a king? It would be David and all of his children.
Now beauty ran in David's family. His son Absalom was so good looking that they cut his hair only once a year and his hair alone weighed 5lbs. The Bible says that no man was as beautiful as Absalom. And he was sitting at David's table and it's dinner time at the king's table.
He had a sister named Tamar. The Bible says she was so good looking that her own brother raped her and beautiful Tamar was also at David's table.

Who else was at David's table? There was wise Solomon probably reading a book. There were David's 2 nephews Abishi and Joab, mighty warriors, courageous men. The Bible says Joab was cute! And they both take their seat at the table.

Then the next person comes in. It's a cripple! IN WALKS A CRIPPLE! With all of this beauty at the table, in walks a cripple!!!

That's when brother lowered the boom on us... no one will ever forget that talk because it demonstrated Jehovah loving kindness.
He told us we are all crippled brothers. Adam and Eve dropped every one of us... we are all crippled......... We are all messed up.
We have frailties and infirmities we don't want anyone to know. We make it hard on each other to stay at the table because we look at each other and say 'he doesn't belong at this table.' We are hard on each other. We make it hard to sit at the table. We say things like 'I know he's not coming to the table". "She needs to quit ". We look at a brother and say 'he's not gonna make it'.. You see we are hard on each other at that table. And we live in Lodebar. No mater how much you pay for your mortgage, we are living in a filthy world. It's beneath Jehovah. It's the ghetto.
Now Mephibosheth, he couldn't understand how the king wanted him to sit at his table.

Isn't that the way we are? We can't appreciate Jehovah's loving kindness. We can't understand it.. There are things about us we don't want anyone to know. We compromised. We capitulated. We went back at times and we don't want anybody to know that. We don't understand Jehovah's loving kindness.

We tell people 'there are things about me you just don't know'. And when we receive commendation we tell people 'if you really knew how I was you wouldn't say that, so now I feel worse.'
Did you know that there are some people who serve God yet pray that they can just die?
We feel we are not worthy to be at Jehovah's table... We can't understand Jehovah's loving kindness. Mephibosheth, he couldn't understand it and many times he would look around the table and say to David 'let me leave, I can't measure up'.
And David would say 'stay at the table'. Mephibosheth looked at Tamar's beauty and asked to leave the table and David said 'stay at the table'. He looked at wise Solomon and said 'let me leave the table' and David said 'stay at the table'.
He looked at mighty Joab and felt unworthy and asked to leave but David said 'stay at the table'.

Now in Israel , one of the "worst" things was to be a dog. Mephibosheth said at second Samuel chap 9 vs.. 8 'And he said what is your servant that you have turned your face to the dead dog! Such as I am. I am not even a dog. I am a dead dog... why are you showing loving kindness to me?'
Do you ever feel that way? You see, if you only knew the love that Jehovah has for us, if you could only understand the work and effort and appreciation the faithful slave has for you, If you could only appreciate that it's not just a group of men printing literature in a building, they recognize the loving kindness of God.

Sure, you have done wrong and you have been disciplined. You have had hard times. Regardless of what you have done, regardless of how you feel... just stay at Jehovah table.. Jehovah is not limited. He's not like humans...
As humans we remember things and we will never let you live it down. We say things like, 'I know what he did in 1983 and I knew him back in the day'. Girl... .. Jehovah's not that way. Manasseh did what was bad on a grand scale. He sinned against Jehovah. Jehovah not only restored him, he forgave him and made him king again. That's the God we serve! Jehovah says: 'don't be mindful of what these humans keep against you.' Jehovah says: 'I am not that way....' A struggling person is not a bad person .... We are just struggling. That's all. You are not bad.. Just remain faithful and stay at Jehovah's table.

40,000 a year become inactive. They leave Jehovah's table. Are we making it hard for them to stay at Jehovah's table? Many try to come back. At the Memorial, are we making it hard for them to stay at God's table? Are we making them feel like a dead dog? You see we are all crippled brothers ... Adam and Eve dropped everyone of us. Let's make it comforting and encouraging to stay at Jehovah's table. Regardless of what you've done, regardless of how you feel never think Jehovah won't forgive you, because Jehovah is actively looking for people like us to show loving kindness to.
Now the thing about this table is they would usually have these long skirts like table cloths and the skirt would cover everything below the table. It would cover everybody's legs. When Mephibosheth as a cripple sat at the table it would cover his legs and he would be just like everyone else. All his frailties and infirmities were covered as long as he stayed at Jehovah's table!!

That skirt pictures the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ .... Jehovah's telling us that I have you covered at this table. Don't leave, just stay at the table. You have all the covering.... You have all you need .... I don't even see your frailties. I have been looking for people like you to show loving kindness to.
2nd Samuel chap 9 vs.. 11: very encouraging, 'So Ziba said to the king: 'In accord with all that my lord the king commands for his servant is the way that your servant will do; but Mephibosheth is eating at my table like one of the sons of the king.' It was Jehovah loving kindess.
VS 13 'And Mephibosheth himself was dwelling in Jerusalem , for it was constantly at the table of the king that he was eating; and he was lame in both of his feet.'

Mephibosheth stayed at that table. He stayed at God's table. Mephibosheth said 'sure: I have had hard times and I am a cripple and I don't even understand this loving kindness, but he said I'll never leave this table.'
And the Bible says he never left the table although he was lame in both of his feet. You see the skirt covered his legs. It covered his problems, covered all of his sins.

Lovers of God, don't leave. We are almost home. Jehovah says 'you are covered at this table. I love you. Don't ever doubt it....' Jehovah says 'why have you ended a sentence with a question mark when I have ended it with a period?' He's telling us that his son died for us and he's been looking for people like us to show loving kindness to.
Always stay at Jehovah's table.

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Okay, I'm sorry I posted this condescending, presumptous, hateful, degrading and judgemental email to everyone, but I am needing something to reply back to this JW that forwarded this piece of shit. Can you guys give me ideas on what to say? Keep in mind, this person is in DEEP into it, but I would like to tell her off in a politically correct way as well as something to make her think about this bullshit.

- Soldier

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New Light on conducting meetings for Field Service

by Mad Sweeney in

according to the governing body letters blogspot, the february 2011 km establishes a prohibition on reading the daily text at meetings for field service.. no further details are given.

anyone have theirs and can post a scan or a summary?.

Soldier77

The Feb 2011 KM should be rolling out soon if not already right? I'm sure someone can scan it... I don't have one, have to be at the meetings for that!