my family knows that i post on this forum (they have a packet of print outs of topics i have started) and they know about my videos on youtube.. they have made a demand that i cease all internet communication with the apostate community and then they will have me back.. i have refused.. they say i am a narcissist because i am ignoring the feelings of my family because they are very hurt by the things i am doing on the internet and speaking out against the religion.. interesting since they had to search out my posts and videos to gather evidence of apostasy.. -sab.
So debator are you counting 'time' on this site?
Have you been approved to do so by your BOE and if not, are they aware that you are on an apostate site? If not and you are 'above' their rules, then you sir, are a HYPOCRITE! If they have and are aware of you coming here, posting on an apostate site and couting your time, if you are, you sir, are still a HYPOCRITE!
So in the end, you still FAIL. Thanks for playing though, your circular reasoning is quite hysterical.
i've never celebrated halloween but i know what candy i would have wanted.
hershey bars, reese's cups, peppermint patties.. the worst for me would be mary janes, squirrels, any maple flavoured candies.
sometimes the expensive, exotic candies are the worst!
Candy corn is awesome!
Also, Whoppers (mini boxes), lollipops, tootsie rolls, anything individually wrapped would be easier.
mary had to make up a story for why she was pregnent after cheating on joseph and it ended up seriously getting out of hand.. -sab.
Part of being a con artist is to place a little bit of doubt a little bit of wariness into the job so that it doesn't seem too good to be true. In the end though, it's still a con. Just sayin, a smart person that wanted to pull off a hoax as big as this would want to have some inconsistencies in the story.
To take a quote from Terry Goodkind: "People are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."
"we are the ones we've been waiting for.".
yup.
that suits them perfectly!.
"The beatings will continue until morale improves."
this is one of the top thought stopping phrases here.. it invalidates any argument presented against the organization.
it basically says this:.
"it doesn't matter who did what in the org, it doesn't matter how bad things get, we are the only ones doing what jesus did, therefore all errors and corruption are disregarded as we await the end.".
Only read half way down the first page, but I saw Tammy's question and had to chime in:
I don't think they have growth actually, in comparison to the population growth of the world.
Using last years growth numbers off the yearbook, it takes approximately 5.5k hours per person to baptism. That's using the hours spent in field circus divided by the total amount baptized for the year.
Sounds like a piss poor effort to get new converts. Inefficient.
let us know what got you questioning wbts in the first place.
i've got a theory that it starts with people hurting us and only then does the "apostate" turn to looking at the beliefs.. anybody who started questioning beliefs first?.
I would say it was a bit of both that got me questioning things.
In the back of my head, the doctrine always seemed... whacky... I remember as a kid always questioning certain statements made at conventions or meetings that just sounded off. Then as I got older and got to be involved with the 'dark side' of being a witness, it showed me the legalistic, hypocritically, power-hungry, egotistical men that were running the show.
Then, late last year, a personal experience was like a slap in the face to me. Like jumping in an ice cold pond with no clothes on. The doctrine was not being lived up to by the elders, or most in the congregation, that made me analyze the doctrine more and learned just how FUBAR it is. So the doctrine was always in question, but the people sent me over the edge.
this one is so bad.... whoever is trying to show off while playing violin is horrible!
anyone have other bad kingdom melody renditions!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dixga-pcmdy.
while an earlier version was made available privately the time has come to 'progress'.. conscious class and ex both strongly adhere to not keeping things 'hidden' in regards to wts publications, talks and documents which are circulated in order to maintain it's position.. another wonderful poster (who has yet to give me permission to name) has 'reduced' and 'bookmarked' the first full copy link i was given by our 'winner'.. in this newest and final 'clean' copy link you find two other additions besides the reduction/bookmarking..... the brother who uploaded the entire book wishes all to have a copy that includes both boe ltrs (pre-ks ltr and spiral binding ltr).
also another development has occurred.... the brother responsible for this book being brought into light and put forth for public consumption and discussion has requested i post this letter explaining to 'us' (jwn posters/global audience) and 'them' (wts of penn & ny).. i ask you give attention to his words/ experiences as he is representative of a newly emerging demographic within the conscious class.
so without further ado i give you his link and the 'stage' if you will to 'brother johnson'....... [link removed - contact ynot for further info - lady lee].
Thanks YKnot and Bro. Johnson, very moving letter.
YKnot, could you pm me the link? Thank you.
what kind of tea do you drink?
what is your favourite way to drink it?
personally, i've never even tried coffee.
Thank you for the tips and thank your husband too! WIll take it to heart.
i was listening to the radio in the car while andy and julian were in the store a while ago.
grand rapids has a nice little indy, listener supported station.
this amazing song came on, so beautiful i just have to share.
I always loved UB40, here is Ali Campbell (lead singer from UB40) on his own:
