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  what is going on?

  by drawcad_1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just started attending a new congregation with my wife (very much a believer) and have noticed a lot of complacency.

  during the weekdays service meetings it is only pioneers and auxileries that show up.

  on weekends a typical service group that has 30 people assigned to it only has 6 show up.

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  Soldier77

  Well, to be fair, I think you just answered your own question.

  I'll just chime in to it though to add some. My parents have said that many people in their congrgation and surrounding congs are moving in together to consolidate rent. People are struggling to survive. Many are 3-4 months behind on their mortgage etc. This has been going on for over 2 years, as with anything that goes on this long, the more people are affected.

  People are stressed, agitated, angry... Of course their going to be complacent with 'doing more' or contributing to the WWW fund. When things were good economically, people didn't mind listening to the mind numbing rhetoric at the meetings/assemblies/conventions. Now that they are on high stress because of the economic recession, people are throwing up their hands with what they are hearing from the JW propaganda machine. All they are hearing is, do more, donate more, increase your service time to cope, serve JAh, serve US....

  That's what's going on.
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  The elders were told in my hall they can pick up their copy of the elders book tonight!

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok i know many of you will think i am strange but i tie in to the meeting on tuesday night just for the announcements five minutes ok i might have to listen to just a tad bit of the song it truly is horrible.. ok so just like 10 minutes ago they announced that the elders can go to the po or cobe after the meeting to get their new elders book.

  i was like seriously they just announced it.

  i was laughing so hard as it has been out on the internet for at least two weeks now and the elders in my hall are now just getting it.

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  I think it was done on purpose in that situation LITS. They want everyone to know that the elders got a new updated super secret book. That adds the uuuu aaaaa factor to R&F and a bit of mystery... mind games that's all it is.

  Listener, I don't think many know that it's on the internet. The higher ups at brooklyn obviously know, but I know the elders in my cong I'm assigned to would flip if they found that out. We here on this board stay on top of the 'new light' and race along 'Jehovah's Chariot' much better than the hardcore believers.
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  Does anybody in London know anything about this???

  by brizzzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a californian, but a good friend in london just texted me saying there's a blitz of about 50 jehovah's witnesses in croydon right outside of where she's eating loaded up with watchtowers and setting up a stall and a speaker with a megaphone.

  she also says that some of them are women in wheelchairs and that they're rolling in front of passers by and blocking them when they try to ignore them.

  she says all of the pedestrians are telling them to fuck off and leave them alone because they're not interested in a cult, haha.. is this something new that the society is encouraging over there (or even more scary, everywhere?

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  Or, a great idea was enacted. Maybe a group of apostates, or disgruntled witnesses did this. By the reactions of the people on the street it worked. People were calling them a cult, freaks whatever. I say, that was a 'good witness' to the public. Get more people aware that they are cultists.

  Welcome activeJW, you are now an apostate for being on an apostate board! I bet you think you can get away with counting your time you post here?

  The demunz are watchin you!
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  Can someone please explain what it is with JWs and Smurfs?

  by Little Imp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have noticed over time references to smurfs.

  i can say i never heard anything about the smurfs when i attended the kh.

  i also asked my husband who was more or less a born in but he didn't have a clue either.

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  Growing up in the states during the late '70's early '80's it was definitely a bad thing to have Smurf toys. I heard a lot of 'demonic' possessions of these stuffed blue toys wearing white hats (or red). Shit like a little girl went to sleep with her smurf doll and woke up in the middle of the night screaming bloody murder. When the parents got to her she had scratches down the side of her cheek and blood on the smurf dolls hand.

  Of course, no one brought out the fact that the family had a cat and it hated to be closed up in the room with the daughter... and the smurf gets the bad rap.

  Come to think of it, what is it with JWs and DEMONS period? Speaking to my mom the last week or so, she had said 'demonic', 'demon possessed' and 'controlled by demons' a few times. Makes me wonder if she's hiding something, I don't know what, maybe she's into witchcraft....
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  The Girl Who Made Grown Men Shut-Up and Listen.....

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. social
  2. current

  i wonder where she is today?

  i wish she were my child.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sb6rmrmbby&feature=related.

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  Amazing. What year was this? "out of the mouths of babes."
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  Making the final break - stopping attending the Memorial

  by Eiben Scrood in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i started my fade in 2004 and completely quit regular attendance in 2005. i have, however, gone to all the memorials since.

  i still consider myself christian and felt it was a somewhat decent way of respecting the sacrifice.. i am thinking of not going this year.. i am generally disgusted at what the memorial observation actually entails.

  there is almost no talk about what jesus went through on that day or even the tremendous sacrifice involved and the love that motivated it.

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  I always thought that the memorial was a bit like going to a funeral service. The mood was so.... bleak. Shouldnt we have been joyous that Jesus sacrificed his life for us? Shouldn't we be happy that we are there on that important night?

  What a bunch of rubbish. Total dishonor to Jesus and God. What a slap in their face.
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  How many have you gotten out of the Borg?

  by TweetieBird in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'll start -.

  i have officially gotten 2 out so far, which is more than i ever got into it, with the exception of my son that i begged not to get baptized.

  he, however, is disfellowshipped now and wants nothing to do with the organization.

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  Soldier77

  I've helped more STAY out of this org than got in. Some of my normal aka 'worldly' friends who knew I was a JW (technically I still am but not mentally) ask me about the religion. I tell them I am no longer a believing JW and do not listen to their cult message.
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  Ghosts and Spirits

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been watching the bio channel lately and hearing people relate their stories of ghosts and the supernatural.. although i think some people do experience demonic presences, i think some people (for whatever reason) find it difficult to move on.

  jws believe everything is caused by "demons," but there are many near death experiences where people clearly seem to see family members who have helped them and who have manifested themselves with feelings of peace and serenity.

  since i don't believe that satan can duplicate these feelings of well being, i was wondering what you think of such manifestations, good or bad.. also, have you ever had any experiences, again, good or bad, in your lives?

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  Soldier77

  Hadit:

  Any of you have any weird experiences with electrical stuff going wonky around you?

  That is because our bodies are electrical. Ever touch the end of a radio antennae? Notice that the signal gets clearer and stronger? You are correct that there is 'energy' out there, more accurately, energy within you.
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  First Elder attempt to hunt me down

  by mamalove in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so got a voice mail from an elder today.

  it has been 15 mos since i attended meetings.

  he just said to call him back.

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  Use their own 'theocratic warfare' tactics on them. I.e. Shun THEM, disfellowship THEM. Don't talk to those company men at all. If they corner you and you answer the phone on accident, open the door on accident, run into them in public and they can't be avoided, then remember these three things: Distract, Divide and Divert. Do not commit to anything, if they want to meet with you ask them in what regards, then tell them you will get back to them when YOU are available.

  Don't play by their rules and learn to use theirs against them.
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  Question For Those Who Have Been Around Awhile...

  by BoomTown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i started fading about a year and a half ago after i saw serious problems within the organization and doctrinal flaws.

  i was a ms, bethelite, pioneer for the better part of 10 years.. while pioneering as a ministerial servant i married a girl who wasn't considered "strong" in the truth despite being raised in the truth.

  anyway for the better part of the last 18 months i talk to her about the flaws when an opportunity presents itself.she no longer goes out in the ministry(more or less for the last year).. .

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  Soldier77

  There are cracks in her armor, slowly start working on them. Do some studying together of the more controversial things, get HER thoughts on what SHE thinks about it. Steer her away from going into the well, the Watchtower says... phrase.

  Saying that JWs have the true religion because they don't celebrate holidays is probably one of the most weak backing I've ever heard of the cult. That is quite hysterical actually.

  Sounds like you need to tip the pendulum slowly towards the middle and get her from thinking in WT terms.