SKYPE!
But yeah, long-distance relationships suck. Don't let it get to you, stay positive, make him a few cards and send one each day till New Years. Or something non-stalkerish... lol
longing for boyfriend and feeling sad today .
and not sure we can see each other for the holidays.... .
SKYPE!
But yeah, long-distance relationships suck. Don't let it get to you, stay positive, make him a few cards and send one each day till New Years. Or something non-stalkerish... lol
circuit overseers were supposed to be a thing of the past.
"presiding overseers" were supposed to take over.. there seem to be certain people "in the know" that reveal information and it may sound very convincing-- but is it??.
do you tend to believe what new posters say if they tell us about "new light" from the organization?.
No I don't tend to believe them, especially without backing scans of official letters or recordings. I trust a couple of people on this site that post new changes because they usually have scans or backing evidence.
But to see a newbie post something new, especially if it sounds a bit too good to be true, then I just read it for speculation purposes and entertainment.
does how we calculate a year in our calendar today have any impact on how we understand dates in history and/or prophecy from the bible?.
i was reading about the current calendar and how it came to be.
when the julian calendar was introduced, the preceding year was lengthened to 445 days to bring the new calendar to a correct starting point.
Interesting wannabefree. Now I'm curious! So we could be off in our calendars by what? a year or more?
I'm wondering too!
so an elder came to my door the other day in field circus.
i looked through the peephole to see who it was, but the way the door is situated against the sky in the background i couldn't see anything but a silhouette.
not to mention he was standing off to the side so to make it hard for anyone to see who was knocking.. so i open the door thinking it was my friend since he is the only jw that knows where i live.
SD-7, don't worry, I'm not falling for his genuine heartfelt side. I have no intentions to fall for one 'good intentioned' elder suck me back into that cult!
so an elder came to my door the other day in field circus.
i looked through the peephole to see who it was, but the way the door is situated against the sky in the background i couldn't see anything but a silhouette.
not to mention he was standing off to the side so to make it hard for anyone to see who was knocking.. so i open the door thinking it was my friend since he is the only jw that knows where i live.
Correct baltar. He is a fairly 'new' elder. Although he is an experienced man in his mid 50's...or older maybe...
Oh and if you (the elder that stopped by the other day) are reading this and call me out on being on an apostate site, bring it.
i got to thinking about this and for me anyway, they would have to come clean on at least the following things:.
an honest retraction must be made on all the ridiculous chronology (of course including the false prophecies).
by this i mean, stop this psuedo numerology stuff of adding up this or that date, adding on x many years, etc.
Is it possible for true reform?
No. Because to do so would mean unravelling all of the lies that have been handed down to the R&F. If they want true reform, they need to send out an accounts report on where all of the money is invested, how much is spent on what, whom and how it breaks down across all corporate entities controlled by the WTS.
For true reform, they need to explain how they arrive at doctrine, what publications were used in research and by whom. They also need to say that they were wrong on all prophetic dates and explain how those dates were selected.
If they want any credibility to continue on as a religion, these are just some of the many things they need to be transparent about.
so an elder came to my door the other day in field circus.
i looked through the peephole to see who it was, but the way the door is situated against the sky in the background i couldn't see anything but a silhouette.
not to mention he was standing off to the side so to make it hard for anyone to see who was knocking.. so i open the door thinking it was my friend since he is the only jw that knows where i live.
So an elder came to my door the other day in Field Circus. I looked through the peephole to see who it was, but the way the door is situated against the sky in the background I couldn't see anything but a silhouette. Not to mention he was standing off to the side so to make it hard for anyone to see who was knocking.
So I open the door thinking it was my friend since he is the only JW that knows where I live. WRONG! It was an elder in my hall. First thought, 'oh shit, good going you dumbass!' Fortunately, it was probably one of the coolest elders I've known. He really was out in FS and wasn't 'dropping by unannounced' to his credit.
Regardless, he did his little 2-3 minute 'hey how are you?' song and dance trying to 'break the ice' (I haven't been to the meetings in over a month) and of course, lead right into a mini 'shepherding call'. He was by himself so that was the good thing. Anyway, he talked a little bit about the elders school and some things he learned and he said that one thing he wanted to chat to me about was re-investigating my case of child abuse as a child. I asked why? He said that he feels it wasn't handled correctly back then and that the WTS is continuing to victimize me by not addressing it properly.
I truly felt that he had good intentions, but I told him that I really don't care what has been said about it, or what the outcome is anymore. The damage has already been done and I am through putting up with the hypocrisy and bullshit of the organization. I thought, 'well, there you have it, I basicly told him I no longer want to be a part of the org, here comes the JC!'. To my surprise, he said, 'I don't blame you, after all that you have gone through you have every right to feel the way I do.' I was a bit shocked, but thought, yeah this is the set-up to get me to say something incriminating. I kept quiet. He then relates to me his situation with his son and that his son is going through very similar victimization by the WTS with hsi ex-wife yadda yadda. In fact, he did most of the talking from that point and at the end he told me that he was putting together a letter to the society about the abuse that I've been put through for years by the elders and they way they manipulate the outcome of the JC rulings.
I told him thanks for the effort, but really, you don't need to do this. He was quite adamant about setting things straight. I told him bluntly that I will not sit in another JC again for any reason. Ever. I made it a point to tell him that rehashing all of this isn't helping me again, in fact it's the total opposite. It's reopening old healed wounds, I've put it behind me (the physical abuse as a child and mental, emotional and spiritual abuse as an adult), I've seen my share of therapists and counselors. I'm done. If he wants to pursue this letter that's all on him and I'm not supporting it one way or the other.
He makes the statement, 'we're really close to losing you aren't we?' I simply deflected the question with a question, 'how would you feel if you were in my shoes?' He shook his head in understanding and changed the subject to something lighter. He left a few moments later, but before he left he said that he was sorry I have been put through all of this.
I thanked him for his effort (I felt it was sincere, I've known him a few years) but said that I wouldn't be waiting for any response from him or the elders about whatever letter they'll send to Bethel.
In my eyes, I'm already 'gone' from the organization. There is nothing to go back to, it's an empty shell of a lifetime of abuse and hypocrisy that I've seen. It's like that scripture that talks about the dog returning to it's vomit. Going back to the WTS and investing my life back into that world is just like that dog.
It's a disgusting, horrific, agonizing mind-control cult. I would rather die than live in their 'Paradise on Earth' forever under rule by the Governing Body. Good thing I know that that fantasy they've painted is not the truth.
- Soldier
P.S. - Just had to vent again. Thanks for reading/listening. Have a good day all!
i see people saying this online.
my parents made us tell people tha we got gifts throughout the year and that we probably got more presents than kids get on birthdays and christmas.
however, it was a complete lie.
Throughout my childhood I can remember getting gifts maybe MAYBE a handful of times. The line was the same as everyone elses, 'we give gifts throughout the year...' it wasn't true. I can't knock my mom too much, but she DID give me gifts every few years... ironically a few days after my birthday.
i have posted about my experience with the cult....so now i find myself in a difficult position.
i have left it alone for many years but i wonder what you guys think.. i faded away from the cult and stopped going for quite a while.
my older sister took it upon herself to meet with my family and discuss all my sins and actions (they were active).
I say rip her a new one. Revenge is sweet. She wants to play hardball and turn you in then have her cake and eat it too but won't pay the price? Fuck her and the horse she rode on. Gather up the evidence and let it rip!
lol
re; overcharging at special assembly daysmessage hey, .
having a wee bit of trouble but may have stumbled across a couple of things.
can you confirm or look into this- .
See? THIS would be a scandal worth bringing to a network news agaency, maybe 60 minutes or something. THIS is a huge money making scheme being used by the WTS.
Seriously, if this were blown wide open, this could wake up a lot of people. As a non-profit organization, their financials NEED to be open and transparent. The account report at the local KH is more detailed than that at the assemblies/conventions.