Posts by nextdoorgirl

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Generation & "Even when you don't understand/feel uncomfortable with it..."

by nextdoorgirl in

i had been getting my hope up that this new generation teaching wouldn't make sense and cause my jw friends and family to wake up.i even asked my mom to explain the new generation teaching, but she didn't even know what i meant!

slept through that meetin'?

anyway, i had to tell her the march 15 wt, (which i studied thanks to the comments provided here on this wonderful board!

nextdoorgirl

Wow, really good reasoning. I love it! Too bad she never uses the internet. Sigh....well, at least we can look up the articles on the cd rom, and reason on them!

Ha! Thank you!

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Generation & "Even when you don't understand/feel uncomfortable with it..."

by nextdoorgirl in

i had been getting my hope up that this new generation teaching wouldn't make sense and cause my jw friends and family to wake up.i even asked my mom to explain the new generation teaching, but she didn't even know what i meant!

slept through that meetin'?

anyway, i had to tell her the march 15 wt, (which i studied thanks to the comments provided here on this wonderful board!

nextdoorgirl

Good stuff, guys. I will surely use it. I especially like the reasoning if Moses said, "wait guys, we're waiting on new light" it would be evident pretty quickly.

I need iron clad reasoning. Oh, how to wake them UP!

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Generation & "Even when you don't understand/feel uncomfortable with it..."

by nextdoorgirl in

i had been getting my hope up that this new generation teaching wouldn't make sense and cause my jw friends and family to wake up.i even asked my mom to explain the new generation teaching, but she didn't even know what i meant!

slept through that meetin'?

anyway, i had to tell her the march 15 wt, (which i studied thanks to the comments provided here on this wonderful board!

nextdoorgirl

What if she says something that surely they will drivel out, such as "Well, the Isrealites didn't understand and surely didn't feel comfortable with the idea of going up to the red sea, and being cornered there...but that was God's will, as expressed through his mouth-piece, Moses. Same with this. We must always be faithful, you never know where it will lead! Even if it doesn't make sense."

What can we say against that?

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Generation & "Even when you don't understand/feel uncomfortable with it..."

by nextdoorgirl in

i had been getting my hope up that this new generation teaching wouldn't make sense and cause my jw friends and family to wake up.i even asked my mom to explain the new generation teaching, but she didn't even know what i meant!

slept through that meetin'?

anyway, i had to tell her the march 15 wt, (which i studied thanks to the comments provided here on this wonderful board!

nextdoorgirl

Good stuff, guys! Great reasoning, and good scriptures. Haha! Love it! Thanks for the Catholic specific reasoning.

I hope we keep brainstorming, you are awesome!

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Sorry, I meant Heathclliff.

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Generation & "Even when you don't understand/feel uncomfortable with it..."

by nextdoorgirl in

i had been getting my hope up that this new generation teaching wouldn't make sense and cause my jw friends and family to wake up.i even asked my mom to explain the new generation teaching, but she didn't even know what i meant!

slept through that meetin'?

anyway, i had to tell her the march 15 wt, (which i studied thanks to the comments provided here on this wonderful board!

nextdoorgirl

Thanks for the response, Garfield. Great reasoning...especially good, as she was a child and a Catholic, when her mom was converted. So, that reasoning ought to resound with her. How would you respond to her predictable response of: But this is from the F&DS that is guided by God?

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Generation & "Even when you don't understand/feel uncomfortable with it..."

by nextdoorgirl in

i had been getting my hope up that this new generation teaching wouldn't make sense and cause my jw friends and family to wake up.i even asked my mom to explain the new generation teaching, but she didn't even know what i meant!

slept through that meetin'?

anyway, i had to tell her the march 15 wt, (which i studied thanks to the comments provided here on this wonderful board!

nextdoorgirl

I had been getting my hope up that this new generation teaching wouldn't make sense and cause my JW friends and family to wake up.I even asked my mom to explain the new generation teaching, but she didn't even know what I meant! Slept through that meetin'? Anyway, I had to tell her the March 15 WT, (which I studied thanks to the comments provided here on this wonderful board!) and asked her to get it.

I am an inactive, and having just returned from her SAD, she is very concerned about me and the earthquakes and Tsunamis. Anyway, using a strategy I read about on this board, I asked my mom if we could do a family study about the new generation teaching, I needed help to understand it. She said we could do that in a couple days. She was delighted for my "renewed spiritual interest" but somehow seemed reluctant about the topic.

How is she supposed to teach something she doens't know?! Ha!

But...I got to thinking...even if she doesn't understand it she will probably still accept it. And when we get to that point in the study where I am confused and can't understand it, she may just tell me I have to accept it, even if I don't understand it. And to pray for holy spirit to understand it.

(I want to say: what if its wrong? Will holy spirit help me understand it if it is inaccurate? or will it help me to understand its wrong? What if I continue to believe its wrong and it doesn't make any sense to me? Is that the answer to my prayer - can non-understanding be an answer?)

So here it is, the horrifying realization that I came to: The "accept it even if you don't understand it, are uncomfortable with it" that the WT has been pushing will be used to deal with her inability to understand it. Rather than an exericse in "studying" and "understanding" it will become an exercise in loyalty to whatever the F&DS says! Aghgh! When does it END!

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Help! Hold Me Back From Voicing My Opinions And Getting Shunned!

by nextdoorgirl in

i am new to this board after lurking for awhile (thanks so much for creating this place simon, and for everyone's shared thoughts!).

i am going crazy because i have recently allowed myself to begin thinking (and it is so fun!

) and i am an outspoken person, and it is very hard for me to keep my opinions and discoveries about this place under my hat!

nextdoorgirl

Terry, that was awesome! Awesome. Thank you, I will think hard on that....I have been realizing that...but I loved it. I needed that reminder like I need air! And a HUG!

Thank you everyone else too! I love all your support and ideas!

By the way, anyone have any good sayings, quotes to put on a bouqet to one of my friends? I declared it her day tomorrow, and I'm having flowers delivered to her work (she recently complained her MS/Pioneer boyfriend never does anything nice like that for her...and she hates her job and feels so kicked around there).

She was born in, and never celebrated, like most of us. I want to celebrate her tomorrow and give her unconditional love, as some of you have suggested. What would be a great "women are special" "I value you" quote?

Thanks!

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Help! Hold Me Back From Voicing My Opinions And Getting Shunned!

by nextdoorgirl in

i am new to this board after lurking for awhile (thanks so much for creating this place simon, and for everyone's shared thoughts!).

i am going crazy because i have recently allowed myself to begin thinking (and it is so fun!

) and i am an outspoken person, and it is very hard for me to keep my opinions and discoveries about this place under my hat!

nextdoorgirl

Good Thoughts, good thoughts. I read them, and appreciate them.

I feel like I haven't been thinking for so long! I was a born in, though inactive for 2 years from discouragement and a sense that "no one loves me"

- a real wakeup call! - and recently awoke to the facts a month or two ago. This board was a major source for that, as well as Youtube. (Thanks all you XJWs for your awesome life-saving efforts!! You saved mine!

Anyway....now that I'm practicing thinking....and still suffering from the isolation that comes when "no one loves you" (family and "friends" are JWs and are the most cold unloving people ever)....I am needing to talk! Just talk!

I need to talk to process thoughts! As I talk, my brain warms up! I come to new realizations, epiphanies! But, if I had not listeners then...I certainly don't now. (My meager attempts at thinking then, was always strongly discouraged, and more than once got me eyed suspicoiusly as an "independent thinker..."

HA! That's pathetic. I barely thought at all! Well...now, I am well on my way to exercising that wonderful, euphoria-producing brain...and I need to speak, speak, SPEAK to do it properly! I feel if I cannot speak, than I cannot think! A common expression among women.

Maybe we can talk here? I'll consider it.

Thank You, NextDoorGirl

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Help! Hold Me Back From Voicing My Opinions And Getting Shunned!

by nextdoorgirl in

i am new to this board after lurking for awhile (thanks so much for creating this place simon, and for everyone's shared thoughts!).

i am going crazy because i have recently allowed myself to begin thinking (and it is so fun!

) and i am an outspoken person, and it is very hard for me to keep my opinions and discoveries about this place under my hat!

nextdoorgirl

Ohhh....Guyssss! It is so HARD for me....

The asking the questions would brilliant....but I want to speak, to speak, to SPEAK!

Hold me BACK!!!

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Help! Hold Me Back From Voicing My Opinions And Getting Shunned!

by nextdoorgirl in

i am new to this board after lurking for awhile (thanks so much for creating this place simon, and for everyone's shared thoughts!).

i am going crazy because i have recently allowed myself to begin thinking (and it is so fun!

) and i am an outspoken person, and it is very hard for me to keep my opinions and discoveries about this place under my hat!

nextdoorgirl

I am new to this board after lurking for awhile (Thanks so much for creating this place Simon, and for everyone's shared thoughts!)

I am going crazy because I have recently allowed myself to begin thinking (and it is SO fun!) and I am an outspoken person, and it is very hard for me to keep my opinions and discoveries about this place under my hat! I want to share it with my JW friends and family! With Everyone!!!