Posts by trex2strike

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I need some moral advice?

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okay, i like to hang out with these twelve other guys a lot, but recently one of them---i call him josh--(to help protect his identity) as started being a bit of a jerk.

he just decided that he was the leader of the group, and i'm not 100% comfortable with that.

and he expects us to treat him like he was god or something.

Okay, I like to hang out with these twelve other guys a lot, but recently one of them---I call him Josh--(to help protect his identity) as started being a bit of a jerk. He just decided that he was the leader of the group, and I'm not 100% comfortable with that. And he expects us to treat him like he was God or something. It's a pain in the *ss.

Anyway, recently Josh has been having a lot of folks (he calls them his "followers." what a d*ck, right?) over that me and the other guys don't know, and I'm not really cool with that, especially when the party's at my house. I mean, all he does is give them vague fortune cookie wisdom and show them cheap parlor tricks.

Then a while back I heard that Josh was wanted by the law. I'm not entirely sure what the charges are, but I've got half a mind to turn him in. It would get him out of my mind, and there might be some reward money in it for me.

Only problem is, I'm slightly worried that if Josh gets arrested, his "followers" will make him out to some kind of martyr, and start to get really crazy. Like, trying to call down fire from on high crazy.

What do I do help me please?

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How do I trust Jesus as the Messah?

by trex2strike in

jw
friends

i come from an hindu background.

but later with the help of a person called esac[a jw hiimself maleshpaly congregaion, bangalore, india] through whom i learnt about bible.. .

now i believe in yhwh (yahweh or yehovah) but i am unable to belive jesus character is the promised messiah according to old-testament.. .

trex2strike

I am not a after eternal life, paradise, residence in heaven, 72 virgins,....and tons of other goodies/thrashes.

The moment I started to suspect about the very messianic claimant (J-Guy). All began to collapse... After all I was believing & sticking to him bcoz he would give me the so called eternal life under the condition of worship, obeisance, praise, respect, reputation..etc Equivalent or greater to that of true G-D of Isra. Eventhough JW's or any other xtian orgs are used to deny or downplay they didn't hold J-Guy above G-D but it was very much evident from their actions, speeches, songs or prayers rather than their consolidatry scripted words or semantics.

There by I realised that J-guy is just another masiach(messiah) claimant. 30 odd claimants notably shabbtai tzvi, Schneerson, The alien hunter Rael have nothing to with the Bible or G-D. This list includes the J-or Y guy too.

That's my opinion I wish to conclude and end this topic created 1/2 year back. I am noahide now and....

thnx folks I would be no longer using this forum regularly....adios

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How do I trust Jesus as the Messah?

by trex2strike in

jw
friends

i come from an hindu background.

but later with the help of a person called esac[a jw hiimself maleshpaly congregaion, bangalore, india] through whom i learnt about bible.. .

now i believe in yhwh (yahweh or yehovah) but i am unable to belive jesus character is the promised messiah according to old-testament.. .

trex2strike

////My question to you is, Have you read (not that you have to) the New Testament? If so, what do you think of "that" Jesus?

Snowbird: I love your translation.///

Affirmative I have read NT (1).....as well as entire OT(5 times)

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How do I trust Jesus as the Messah?

by trex2strike in

jw
friends

i come from an hindu background.

but later with the help of a person called esac[a jw hiimself maleshpaly congregaion, bangalore, india] through whom i learnt about bible.. .

now i believe in yhwh (yahweh or yehovah) but i am unable to belive jesus character is the promised messiah according to old-testament.. .

trex2strike

I don't need the thrash link of WTs.com that's a thrash anyways thnq

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How do I trust Jesus as the Messah?

by trex2strike in

jw
friends

i come from an hindu background.

but later with the help of a person called esac[a jw hiimself maleshpaly congregaion, bangalore, india] through whom i learnt about bible.. .

now i believe in yhwh (yahweh or yehovah) but i am unable to belive jesus character is the promised messiah according to old-testament.. .

trex2strike

Thnqs 4 info but may be a crooked luck may work.

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How do I trust Jesus as the Messah?

by trex2strike in

jw
friends

i come from an hindu background.

but later with the help of a person called esac[a jw hiimself maleshpaly congregaion, bangalore, india] through whom i learnt about bible.. .

now i believe in yhwh (yahweh or yehovah) but i am unable to belive jesus character is the promised messiah according to old-testament.. .

trex2strike

Affirmative

But let me see for a movement what explantion JW has!.. who are constantly concerned about Paradise! & claim to be the perfect bible transmitters appointed by Jesus in 1914. Oh also the Spirtual Israel concept there by thrashing Physical Israel to dust bin[Hardware vs Software conflict].

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How do I trust Jesus as the Messah?

by trex2strike in

jw
friends

i come from an hindu background.

but later with the help of a person called esac[a jw hiimself maleshpaly congregaion, bangalore, india] through whom i learnt about bible.. .

now i believe in yhwh (yahweh or yehovah) but i am unable to belive jesus character is the promised messiah according to old-testament.. .

trex2strike

4) Misquoted Prophecies and Miss Applied Passages -Begining of Public life John 2: 13-22 Zeal consumed traders as he drove out the traders, obviously refering to pslams 69:9

"Zeal of thy house has consumed me". also John 2: 13-17 "The Messiah will be angered by disrespect toward the Temple.

The problem here is Hebrew 4:15 says he is sinless... which i assume is the fundamental of Jesus belief,

but pslam 69 verse 5peaks thus "O Elohim[plural] [Eloha Singular] you my foolishness & 'my sins' are not from you".

Now if not mistaken I had no choice but fuse this to 69 and deduce Jesus = Sinner

Any possible Explanation?

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Any possible Explanation?

5) Matt 2:14-15 - 14So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt, 15 where he stayed until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: "Out of Egypt I called my son." refering hosea 11:1

But Hosea 11:1 says :When israel was a youth I loved him, and out of egypt I called my son"

----(5)

General

Zech 13:6 refers and speaks about false prophet

Now I reject matthew as an proper as a witness bcoz and any thing out of this book is preety much use less..."Since the witness is not blemishless"

changing the words of Isaiah 7:14--(1)

Misqoute a passage from Hosea 11:1 and make it seem to be about Jesus--(5)

Misattribute a prophecy to Jermiah that doesn't appear in Jeremiah--(2)

Fabricate a prophecy of messiah being from Nazareth--

Dead sea scroll is not a hard enough evidence.

Any new explanations by JW [coz that brother Esac lacks a bit coz his source knowledge is not reading entire bible, but citations fused here there in awake magazine....etc]

Note:- I don't need any references from mathew

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How do I trust Jesus as the Messah?

by trex2strike in

jw
friends

i come from an hindu background.

but later with the help of a person called esac[a jw hiimself maleshpaly congregaion, bangalore, india] through whom i learnt about bible.. .

now i believe in yhwh (yahweh or yehovah) but i am unable to belive jesus character is the promised messiah according to old-testament.. .

trex2strike

I come from an Hindu background. But later with the help of a person called Esac[A JW hiimself maleshpaly congregaion, Bangalore, India] through whom I learnt about bible.

Now I believe in YHWH (Yahweh or Yehovah) but I am unable to belive Jesus character is the promised messiah according to Old-Testament.

Reason

1) Isaiah 7:14 - "Therefore the lord himself will give you the sign: behold the 'youngwoman' will be with a child & bear a son and, she shall call his name Immanuel.

As of this & many reasons I started study hebrew language & discoved the word 'Ha-almah' is always deliberately translated as 'Virgin'..why is this fraud occur?

Even to my surprise NWT translates 'Ha-almah' as almost like virgin by using the word maiden by stupidly justifying scholars agree with it!

Galatians 4:4 simply says "Born of woman[Gyne]" -------(1) Trying fuse things up

although I exclude NCT, CEV & NLT

2) Fabricated Prophecies -Matt 27: 9Then what was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled: "They took the thirty silver coins, the price set on him by the people of Israel, 10 and they used them to buy the potter's field, as the Lord commanded me.

Matthews attributing this text to Jeremiah is puzzling there such text in the book.

Here are explaination given by Christians and some fabrications

"The Prophecy was there in Jermiah but the jews cut it out", "The prophect was there in writing in Jermiah that no one has seen & no longer exists", "Matthew had a bad memory or it was an ancient equivalent of a typo" & My favourite "The prediction was there in Jermiah but was never written down".

Note some including JW'S say it was not Jeremiah but Zecriah 11:10-13.

1) Zechriah is not equal to Jermiah Zec=/=Jermiah

2) Zech not says what matthew says

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3) Isaiah 53(My fav)- Which is pig headedly understood as describing the messiah but it follows the very theme of 41-50 chapter refering Israel[Physical Israel] not self proclaimed [Spirtual Israel] as the suffering servant in dispersion.

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