How do I trust Jesus as the Messah?

trex2strike

I come from an Hindu background. But later with the help of a person called Esac[A JW hiimself maleshpaly congregaion, Bangalore, India] through whom I learnt about bible.

Now I believe in YHWH (Yahweh or Yehovah) but I am unable to belive Jesus character is the promised messiah according to Old-Testament.

Reason

1) Isaiah 7:14 - "Therefore the lord himself will give you the sign: behold the 'youngwoman' will be with a child & bear a son and, she shall call his name Immanuel.

As of this & many reasons I started study hebrew language & discoved the word 'Ha-almah' is always deliberately translated as 'Virgin'..why is this fraud occur?

Even to my surprise NWT translates 'Ha-almah' as almost like virgin by using the word maiden by stupidly justifying scholars agree with it!

Galatians 4:4 simply says "Born of woman[Gyne]" -------(1) Trying fuse things up

although I exclude NCT, CEV & NLT

2) Fabricated Prophecies -Matt 27: 9Then what was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled: "They took the thirty silver coins, the price set on him by the people of Israel, 10 and they used them to buy the potter's field, as the Lord commanded me.

Matthews attributing this text to Jeremiah is puzzling there such text in the book.

Here are explaination given by Christians and some fabrications

"The Prophecy was there in Jermiah but the jews cut it out", "The prophect was there in writing in Jermiah that no one has seen & no longer exists", "Matthew had a bad memory or it was an ancient equivalent of a typo" & My favourite "The prediction was there in Jermiah but was never written down".

Note some including JW'S say it was not Jeremiah but Zecriah 11:10-13.

1) Zechriah is not equal to Jermiah Zec=/=Jermiah

2) Zech not says what matthew says

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3) Isaiah 53(My fav)- Which is pig headedly understood as describing the messiah but it follows the very theme of 41-50 chapter refering Israel[Physical Israel] not self proclaimed [Spirtual Israel] as the suffering servant in dispersion.

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snowbird

Now I believe in YHWH (Yahweh or Yehovah) but I am unable to belive Jesus character is the promised messiah according to Old-Testament.

Welcome.

I, too, believe.

Ask Him to show you the right path.

Matthew 7:7-11 "Don't bargain with God. Be direct. Ask for what you need. This isn't a cat-and-mouse, hide-and-seek game we're in. If your child asks for bread, do you trick him with sawdust? If he asks for fish, do you scare him with a live snake on his plate? As bad as you are, you wouldn't think of such a thing. You're at least decent to your own children. So don't you think the God who conceived you in love will be even better? MSG

Sylvia

Inkie

Dear Trex,

You write:

Now I believe in YHWH (Yahweh or Yehovah) but I am unable to belive Jesus character is the promised messiah according to Old-Testament.

My question to you is, Have you read (not that you have to) the New Testament? If so, what do you think of "that" Jesus?

Snowbird: I love your translation.

--Inkie

zeroday*

Welcome Trex:

At the risk of starting a flaming war with believers you can do some research and discover that Christianity is nothing but borrowed Pagan beliefs including Jesus born of a virgin...It all has it's roots in Pagan religion...

http://www.pocm.info/

trex2strike

4) Misquoted Prophecies and Miss Applied Passages -Begining of Public life John 2: 13-22 Zeal consumed traders as he drove out the traders, obviously refering to pslams 69:9

"Zeal of thy house has consumed me". also John 2: 13-17 "The Messiah will be angered by disrespect toward the Temple.

The problem here is Hebrew 4:15 says he is sinless... which i assume is the fundamental of Jesus belief,

but pslam 69 verse 5peaks thus "O Elohim[plural] [Eloha Singular] you my foolishness & 'my sins' are not from you".

Now if not mistaken I had no choice but fuse this to 69 and deduce Jesus = Sinner

Any possible Explanation?

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Any possible Explanation?

5) Matt 2:14-15 - 14So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt, 15 where he stayed until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: "Out of Egypt I called my son." refering hosea 11:1

But Hosea 11:1 says :When israel was a youth I loved him, and out of egypt I called my son"

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General

Zech 13:6 refers and speaks about false prophet

Now I reject matthew as an proper as a witness bcoz and any thing out of this book is preety much use less..."Since the witness is not blemishless"

changing the words of Isaiah 7:14--(1)

Misqoute a passage from Hosea 11:1 and make it seem to be about Jesus--(5)

Misattribute a prophecy to Jermiah that doesn't appear in Jeremiah--(2)

Fabricate a prophecy of messiah being from Nazareth--

Dead sea scroll is not a hard enough evidence.

Any new explanations by JW [coz that brother Esac lacks a bit coz his source knowledge is not reading entire bible, but citations fused here there in awake magazine....etc]

Note:- I don't need any references from mathew

zeroday*

JW's do not teach from the Bible they present their theology and back it up with Watchtower publications. They could not possibly prove their theology from the Bible...

snowbird

Please excuse me; it seems like your mind is already set as to what you want to believe.

Sylvia

John Doe

Welcome.

I, too, believe.

Nutter.

snowbird

Nutter.

Heathen.

Sylvia

trex2strike

Affirmative

But let me see for a movement what explantion JW has!.. who are constantly concerned about Paradise! & claim to be the perfect bible transmitters appointed by Jesus in 1914. Oh also the Spirtual Israel concept there by thrashing Physical Israel to dust bin[Hardware vs Software conflict].

How do I trust Jesus as the Messah?

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