I'm sorry, but was the speaker high on crack?
Posts by Mary
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"NEW LIGHT" FROM BROTHER WALDO D/O SANTA MARIA ,CALIFORNIA 1/22/2012 "HOW JEHOVAH IS LIKE BROTHERS ACCUSED OF BEING A CHILD MOLESTER!
by Bubblegum Apotheosis ini was shocked to hear how the slander against jehovah's name that we see in the world can be compared to a good man accused of being a child molester.
he went on to describe how terrible such an accusation would be, and how "friends" of the accused would know he's not capable of such an act and would rally to his defense.
at several points in the talk, he refers back to the child molester "example" and how eventually, despite the hideous slander heaped on a man in this situation (depicting jehovah in the bigger picture, we assume), that man's good reputation would be restored.
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Circuit Assembly Confronting Apostate Challenge
by watson inwell, i sat thru day 2 of the latest circuit assembly.
instead of having the co or do re address the "generation" confusion, they had a couple of brothers do a demonstration.
mocha break out in service, weaker brother mentions he's tired....all of the changes lately, the confusing new understanding of that generation, et al.
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Mary
they had a couple of brothers do a demonstration. Mocha break out in service, weaker brother mentions he's tired....all of the changes lately, the confusing new understanding of THAT generation, et al.
I find this very interesting. They usually only have parts that are 'needy' and they must have been bombarded with questions regarding their lame-assed explanation of the 'overlapping generation' from the R&F. I remember when they had a part at the ASS-embly after the 1995 article about 'this generation' and the crap they were trying to pull. More and more Witnesses are getting tired of 'the promise' being nowhere in site and the bozos in charge are desperate.
The DO later associated Apostates with pedophiles and kidnappers. Not making this up.
Not a huge surprise there. The Elders' manual equate anyone who celebrates Christmas with pedophiles too (under what constitutes a disfellowshipping offense.) What morons.......Sorry you had to sit through that shit Watson!!!
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Does Jehovah Still Call Black People the "No-No" Word?
by arko_n9ne ini feel the title is an attention-grabber, but in no means am i looking to start racial tension on jwn.. i know in the past, at least to the 50's from what i've read, the watchtower society has been very demeaning toward people of a less alabaster pigment.
in one instance saying white people were superior and god blessed them that way for good reason.. however, i have not been able to find an official statement from them in any of their printed works that either clears up or apologizes and further corrects that bold standing.. so, to those much wiser than me, is there an official statement from the watchtower identifying people of different race as equal?
and if not, to the ex/current brothers and sisters who are of an "ethnic" background, what are your feelings on the society's derrogatory statements being left unchanged 60-100 years later?.
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Mary
Here's a couple of quotes I found on the subject. No apology though and I wouldn't want to hang from the end of a rope waiting for one. It would all be put down to "noo light":
WT 1966 7/1 p. 391 Equality for All-Regardless of Race or Nationality
Because it is God's will, equality of rights and privileges for all races and nationalities is certain to be realized. However, it will not be as a result of any civil rights movement or present-day social reform. Prejudices and hatreds are too deeply engrained. Throughout human history man's attempts to eradicate them have miserably failed, and continue to fail. Understandably, some human observers feel inequalities are inevitable.
Yet what man has failed to do, God will soon accomplish. How so? First, by bringing about the destruction of this wicked system of things and preserving alive only prejudice-free servants of God into his new order. Then the promise of Jesus Christ, recorded in God's Word, will be fulfilled: "All those in the memorial tombs [regardless of race or nationality] will hear his voice and come out." (John 5:28, 29) Under the righteous rule of God's kingdom these multiracial, multinational resurrected ones will learn to live with one another in peace, free from previous hatreds and strife.
That an administration operated in harmony with the principles of God's Word can bring about this effect is apparent by examining the present-day organization of Jehovah's witnesses. It is a matter of public record that Jehovah's witnesses practice brotherhood of all races and nationalities, and do not merely preach it. With genuine affection they call one another "Brother" or "Sister," and they also treat one another as equals. To obtain a foregleam of how equality for all will be realized in God's righteous new system of things, associate with the organization of Jehovah's witnesses and see it in practice today.
Awake! 1987 6/8 p. 23 Part 7-1960-1969 The 1960's-A Period of Turbulent Protest I Have a Dream"
In the war of protest, students may have taken the lead, but they were not alone. For example, the U.S. civil-rights movement was supported by blacks and whites of all ages under its leader, Southern Baptist preacher Martin Luther King, Jr. In 1963 over 200,000 people marched on Washington, where King inspired them with his "I have a dream" speech.
A measure of success was achieved when the U.S. congress responded with what has been called "the greatest outpouring of human rights legislation in this century." And personal success came when King was awarded the 1964 Nobel Peace Prize.
Watchtower 1956 10/15 pp. 612-613 Is God a Segregationist?
Today true Christians follow that good example. They follow the Christian principles of love, pointing to the blessings of God's kingdom as the only real solution to all of earth's problems, and announcing that under that kingdom rule there will be no segregation on any basis but a oneness of all mankind under their Creator, Jehovah God.
Far from teaching segregation, the Bible condemns it. Paul publicly rebuked Peter for being ashamed to be seen with the uncircumcised Gentile Christians. And he wrote: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, . . . for you are all one in union with Christ Jesus."-Gal. 3:28, NW.
Then what should the true Christian do about it all? He does not spend his time trying to solve all such social problems, because neither Jesus nor the apostles took such a course. They did not agitate against Rome's occupation of Palestine or even against the actual slavery that was common then. They stayed free from such issues so that they could do their far more important work of pointing to God's kingdom as man's only hope.........Men of all races are examining the Scriptures. They are seeing this wise course and are teaching others of the glorious conditions of peace that God's kingdom soon will bring to earth. The blessings that this God-directed kingdom will provide will prove once and for all that God really does love all men who serve him, and that he is no segregationist.
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Dear WTS, if higher education is a waste of time, don't eat the fruit it bares
by arko_n9ne init's 9pm over here, so good evening to those without the sun, and good morning to those who just got it from us.. i've been pretty aggitated with the needless demonizing of higher education from the wts.
they make subtle gestures but their lawyers are too clever to let them say it directly these days.. but i was rereading the february 2011 awake magazine.
i use my watchtowers and awakes for giggles on the can these days.
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Mary
They have no business to expect to benefit from anyone's secular know-how if they disapprove of the very thing that made it possible
Bingo. Here's a cover I'd like to see:
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Mary
No....but I think I've seen it advertised. Is it about a haunted house?
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The Governing Body is so old jokes
by JimmyPage inwho's game?.
the governing body is so old their idea of cybersex is tapping out "who's your daddy?
" in morse code..
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Mary
The Governing Body is so old, they had to tell Adam how to do Eve............
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Whistleblower — Watchtower’s Dump
by Marvin Shilmer inwhistleblower watchtowers dump.
today i added a new article to my blog sharing the whistleblowers letter to new yorks department of environmental conservation (dec) disclosing watchtowers pollution sites and incidents related to it.
my article is titled whistleblower watchtowers dump and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2011/12/whistleblower-watchtowers-dump.html.
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Mary
Wow! Excellent read Marvin! Thanks for posting that.
For those who insist that the person who wrote that letter 'reveal themselves' before they'll accept it as truth, I don't think it needs to be pointed out that many ex-Witnesses try to remain anyonomous or at the very least, keep a low profile, if they still have family members in the Organization. It states as much at the end of the letter.
Did this hit the NY Times or any other newspaper?
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Mary
Terry, for some reason, I cannot see your original post.....can you please copy it here?
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