thanks for calling this to my attention.
my reason for not wanting book material to be run on certain web sites is purely because of finding their approach out of harmony with my own principles and standards, so many are engaged in watch tower trashing and extremely negative.
some sites present material that promotes agnosticism and distrust of the scriptures, even atheism (one such site being in scandanavia).
IslandWoman,
"Many are thirsty and hungry. If they are not fed they will die. Ray Franz and others of his ilk must speak out here!"Your request is legitimate. But your expectations here are beyond what Ray can provide. He is the first to say he is not the “faithful slave” in the sense you describe. You seem to be sincere in your need for assurance, and I sympathize. Your e-mail is locked. Please e-mail me at [email protected].
Jst2laws
thanks for calling this to my attention.
my reason for not wanting book material to be run on certain web sites is purely because of finding their approach out of harmony with my own principles and standards, so many are engaged in watch tower trashing and extremely negative.
some sites present material that promotes agnosticism and distrust of the scriptures, even atheism (one such site being in scandanavia).
Hello Islandwoman,
The issue here is not who is for or against the WT society. It is who is for are against Christianity. Ray is simply a Christian. He escaped the WT and has helped most of us to do the same. He hopes the escape will set “us free” to practice true Christianity.
We are all free to pursue and believe what ever we chose. We are truly free now. We all have are own opinions about what is true and whether or not to even believe in God. Ray chose to pursue God through Christianity as this is what he truly believes. While we are all free to believe what we want, how can we condemn those who do not agree with our personal choice? How can we fault a man who refrains from supporting something in which he personally does not believe?
One may feel belief in God is foolish and harmful. Another believes atheism is foolish and harmful. Hopefully we all live our own life now according to what we believe, but stop condemning those who do not agree.
We are talking about a man who left his life of 60 years behind to live by his conscience. Now we dare to call him a traitor because he continues to avoid supporting concepts of which he does not believe!
Jst2laws
being tne sarcastic semi-doubter bastard i am ,i thought i would satisfy a rebellious inkling in my soul i've wanted to satisfy at the kingdom hall from earliest teenhood i wore a flag pin under my suit jacket!whoa i thought, maybe i'll get caught!
that made it irrisistable!so yesterday i did it!
funny beneath all the smiles of my brothers and sisters was the beast of indignation waiting to surface if the sight of the monstorous abomination would surface before their eyes!
Hey,
Joy2bfree used to take Ray's Crisis of Conscience to the meetings to read. I used to sit in back with my laptop computer and write posts for this board during the meetings.
Jst2laws
my....how the walls come crumbling down.. my father and mother ordered coc and in search of christian freedom tonite.....when talking about freeminds.org they call randy waters, 'randy'.
i can't believe it.. i haven't even read coc, and isocf!!.
but my parents ordered the books tonite....i think my whole fam is going to be alright.. ashi
ashitaka,
This is a phenomenon. How did you get so far as you have without reading at least C of C?
I enjoyed your story and admire you. Now you will be able to help your parents most be letting them help you. Ask them frequently what they are learning from Ray’s books. Give them the pride of discovery and sharing with you the truth. Then get the books and read them yourself. What a wonderful opportunity to help your family.
Jst2laws
easing nature is it for christians?
easing nature the very phrase itself brings to mind the odious product of this activity.
yet, many people have the understanding that this natural bodily function is a practice in which true christians may engage.
Scully,
Great parody. Whether it is birthdays, the blood policy, alternatives to military service, the judicial process and disfellowshipping, two witnesses to pedophilia to mention a few, they are all as bloated with the natural product of your “easing nature” doctrine. It only takes a simple contrast as this to help see how full of $$it the society’s doctrines prove to be. Thanks.
Jst2laws
okay, i know what *my* deal is.
i'm kinda stuck in a life that i really see no way of escaping.
a big part of my deal is that i was raised without a dad who walked out on his family and so i have it in me to be the dad my dad never was.
TJ,
"All I know is that I want to be a dad for my daughter cause I know that I can, and if I do it right, I might make a difference in her life later on."I like your priorities. My hat is off to you.
Jst2laws
hi all, just wondering if anyone else like me had to give evidence in judical cases involving their family members and how they got over the guilt when they realised what they had done?
Chezza,
Probably all of us have regrets, some more than others. You, like myself, did what we believed was right at the time. I have the pleasure of knowing that one of the mistakes I made in incriminating a friend had, if any effect, helping his family escape the grips of the WT society decades before I woke up. Now I wish someone would have done me the favor. So Chezza, what has happened to your relative since? Are you sure they are worse off? It may be you unintentionally did them a favor. I feel living outside the protection of scriptural principles is not good. But getting out of the JW’s with your faith intact may be a blessing.
Beck
Fortunately, not only God does not hold you accountable but your brother has forgiven you too.x
Kep
Good.
Jst2laws
i dont think so.. sparks.
court: you may ask it.
court: i hardly think he did.
Amazing,
I'm had to jump back and forth between 4b and 4c as the picture became more clear as to what was going on. I can see someone who did not understand the charges and how the questions of Sparks were not relevant to the charges might think the judge was interfering with the defense. Thanks for the tips to help focus on the real issues.
Jst2laws
freefallin e-mailed this to me and thought you all would enjoy it.. changing a light bulb the christian way.
how many christians does it take to change a light bulb?.
charismatic: only one.
Jw's: None! No bulbs needed. The Governing Body provides their own new light.
Xjws: Minus one. While in the dark we thought the bulb was good. Then the light came on.
Jst2laws
here is a funny video!
check it out!.
http://www.empowerthespirit.com/misc/freewaycourtesy.asf.
Thanks FreePeace
I needed a good laugh. I'm going to e-mail this to a few friends.
Jst2laws
