Posts by JT

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Can inactives be D/F'd?

by tabbycat in

can inactive ex-jw's be disfellowshipped?

i've always been interested but can't ask my mother (still a jw) for fear of upsetting her.

if i was d/f'd, would it really mean that even my immediate family would 'shun' me?

JT

the official postion of the Service Dept is as follows;

There is no stature of limitations for a body of elders to form a judical committee for a baptize jw who is in violation of a wt rule. It is all at the descretion of the body of elders

no baptized jw will be abe to appeal a dfing on the grounds of ; "I have been inactive for xxx number of years"

in elders school all the instructores were directed to inform elders it is your call- so some elders will say, well sister johnson was baptized at 13, left the org at 16 , now 36- leave her alone its been 20 yrs

JT former elder, bethelite well known in the DC area left in 1980 in 2000 he is on the speaking circuit giving talks about the evils of JW 20 yrs later, we need to df him for apostasy-

it is the call of the local elder

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Has anyone requested their Publisher Records or any other 'records'?

by tabbycat in

jw
friends

...and if so, what happened?

i am now living quite far away from my old hall, and no-on here knows i used to be a jw.

i don't know who the secretary would be in my old hall, as it's been a long time.

JT

JT, I may request you write a little letter for me some time.

7777777777777

anytime, in fact what is normally done is we find a former jw in a city you would like to say you have moved to and then we send it from their zip code to get the post mark- and go from there

but i do recall something about in europe they destoyed all congo records, so at this point,in time there are no records in certain european countries, here in the states we still keep records on pub

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Has anyone requested their Publisher Records or any other 'records'?

by tabbycat in

jw
friends

...and if so, what happened?

i am now living quite far away from my old hall, and no-on here knows i used to be a jw.

i don't know who the secretary would be in my old hall, as it's been a long time.

JT

Hey JT.

You've peaked my interest. My wife and I would love to get our publishers record card. I'll shoot you an e-mail or call you.

no problem

[email protected]

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Has anyone requested their Publisher Records or any other 'records'?

by tabbycat in

jw
friends

...and if so, what happened?

i am now living quite far away from my old hall, and no-on here knows i used to be a jw.

i don't know who the secretary would be in my old hall, as it's been a long time.

JT

phone

corr

phony

27

Has anyone requested their Publisher Records or any other 'records'?

by tabbycat in

jw
friends

...and if so, what happened?

i am now living quite far away from my old hall, and no-on here knows i used to be a jw.

i don't know who the secretary would be in my old hall, as it's been a long time.

JT

hey if need be we can get the entire phone Service committee of elders here in Lakeside congo to sign off on the request

hey it is the most fun you can have on your way out of the org- smile

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Has anyone requested their Publisher Records or any other 'records'?

by tabbycat in

jw
friends

...and if so, what happened?

i am now living quite far away from my old hall, and no-on here knows i used to be a jw.

i don't know who the secretary would be in my old hall, as it's been a long time.

JT

I have not, but asked that question myself. There is a provision for having your personal records returned to you. It is addressed in the Elder's Manual (Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All The Flock). It states on Page 102 paragraph 1 of the book:

"If a baptized person insists that he does not want to be part of the congregation and requests that his name be removed from all our records, we should comply with his request."

Kwin

Actually there is no arrangement to return any records to individuals – at one time some elders would allow you to see your pub card but only elders are allowed maintain them

The instructions you mentioned only would result in you being DAED- you will not get any “records”

To my man:

Thanks all. I'll think about all this. I am concerned that it would be seen as an 'informal' disassociation, and I am still agonising over it all, and what/how would be the best way to go about everything

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O no my friend we are not talking about daing, we are talking about myself as the SEC of the

Lakeside Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses would inform the SEC of your old hall that you have moved in and would like to be reactivated, we have a fine pioneer bro and his wife studing with you and you are attending meetings and we would like to have your pub cards sent along with a letter of introduction- which will allow the elders to tell your new congo all your dirty little secrets, any judicial cases in the past and restrictions currently , yes some elders tell your whole life story

And the best part is you get to read it all unbeknown to them- smile

Touch base with me offline I can tell you exactly how it is done-

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Intellectual starvation among JWs

by zagor in

wanted to write another topic entirely, but after quite some thinking i thought that one particular topic should be addressed.

especially, for people still feeling confused.

we often wonder why so many dubs looks like zombies, why it is hard to make them see the real truth about the truth, why cant they discuss any topic in depth without resorting to reasoning book or other wtbs literature, why it is that they are so easily manipulated, why it is that they are filled with apostate state of mind fears (fearing to question anything), why, why, why?

JT

Terry only one word

DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!

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Has anyone requested their Publisher Records or any other 'records'?

by tabbycat in

jw
friends

...and if so, what happened?

i am now living quite far away from my old hall, and no-on here knows i used to be a jw.

i don't know who the secretary would be in my old hall, as it's been a long time.

JT

if you like feel free to email me i can request it in your behalf and when it comes in send it to you, smile

wt hates us for playing games on their Society Men

[email protected]

we can arrange everything off line, been doing this for former jw now for almost 8yrs - smile

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Has anyone requested their Publisher Records or any other 'records'?

by tabbycat in

jw
friends

...and if so, what happened?

i am now living quite far away from my old hall, and no-on here knows i used to be a jw.

i don't know who the secretary would be in my old hall, as it's been a long time.

JT

yep , i requested my own, i wanted to see what my fellow elders would say about me and sure enough along with the pub card., school slips was the letter of introduction and it was a dog letter of me and Lady C-

you got to love it, i got it by playing a wonderful trick on the body of elders since i used to request letters form other SEC all the time

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Depression and JW's

by damselfly in

jw
friends

i don't wish to hijack the chronic fatigue thread so i started this one.

when i was a teen i suffered from severe depression brought on by emotional abuse, sexual abuse and the jw way of handling it.

i couldn't physically get out of bed, didn't know what day it was, had no desire to eat and dropped below 100 lbs.

JT

one of the pub in my bookstudy was a single black sister who is a Dr. she is a society expert witness as well, her practice was here in DC- we used to talk all the time since we knew the same bethelites-

99% of her patients were jw refered by CO's all around the dc area, md, va and dc-

and she would discuss no one case in particualr, but how so many cases revolved around feelings of worthlessness, depression, bipolar and chronic fatigue-

and just how many friends in our hall as well as surrounding halls were on medication

looking back it never dawn on me how this truly is sad, that the "Happiest People on Earth" suffer so much from mental issues then other folks

so sad but so true