Posts by JT

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Whats the circulation of the Watchtower and Awake these days ???

by run dont walk in

how many magazines get printed in 2004. watchtower =.

awake =.

and can someone tell me the circulation in 1988-1995 for both as well, .

JT

our co had all the congo in the circuit do a followup on our mag useage as a congo and it was like 2000 taken in and only about 1100 placed which means over 10,000 mags a yr were sitting around in folks home over 10,000 mags IN JUST OUR CONGO ALONe

multiply that by 20 congos and you are looking at 200,000 in just ONE CIRCUIT- NOW DO THE MATH for multiple circuits

but this is the point folks, since the wt bills for all 2000 each month and they are paid off, what you do with the mags at that point is on you-

the wt is much like AMWAY- it's members buy the bulk of thier products-

consider that the avg pub picks up 4 mags- 6,mill folks gives you 24-mill mags- so they have a BUILT IN CONSUMER BASE,

and for this reason wt has no intentions of getting the latest mags up on the net for easy reading

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Ask any JW this line of questioning.

by apocalypse in

if you have opportunity to enter a discussion with a jw (i am still active so for me it's not a problem) ask this line of questions.. q) are you going to go to the red cross to give blood?.

a) they will answer speedily... no!

(without hesitation).

JT

meat to a nonjw

CORRECTION

meat to a NONJEW

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Ask any JW this line of questioning.

by apocalypse in

if you have opportunity to enter a discussion with a jw (i am still active so for me it's not a problem) ask this line of questions.. q) are you going to go to the red cross to give blood?.

a) they will answer speedily... no!

(without hesitation).

JT

this issue has been explained by many co and do as pulling a principle from the old testament, where the jews could sell dead unbled meat to a nonjw to eat yet they could not eat it

whne this was explained to me the first time it sounded so reasonable, but they base it on some jewish law that allowed the jews to benifit from others who didn't live by jehovahs high moral standards on blood

I THOUGHT WE WERE NO LONGER UNDER THE OLD LAW COVERNANT, my bad,

the wt picks and chooses when and how it want to apply bible text all the time- it is actually kinda cool to think that at anytime they like , they can rewrite the rules

can you imagine that anytime something is going wrong in your life all you have to do is change the rules of the game in THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME

U GOT TO LOVE IT

Pro JW Books- Most published by Rank and File

by JT in

jw
friends

http://members.shaw.ca/stanm/books/theobooks.htm

these are considered by jw to be excellent examples of what others have to say about jw, and like in almost all the cases it turns out that the writer is one of jw.

some of the ones i have seen are well written in some parts and then merely parroting the wt line in other areas.

JT

http://members.shaw.ca/stanm/books/theobooks.htm

these are considered by jw to be excellent examples of what others have to say about jw, and like in almost all the cases it turns out that the writer is ONE OF JW

some of the ones i have seen are well written in some parts and then merely parroting the wt line in other areas

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Rutherford's wife, why the info blackout?

by VM44 in

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friends

rutherford ruled the watchtower organization from 1916 to 1942, traveled extensively, had several residences, most notably, beth sarim.

but absent always was his wife, mary, not to mention his son, malcolm as well.. ok, rutherford was so well known, why did no one inquire about his son and wife?.

when rutherford resided at beth sarim in san diego, why was his wife not there with him?

JT

This is why i just love The NET "THANG"

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If attending meetings: Are brothers still "reaching out" ?

by truthseeker in

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friends

it's been a while since i read any figures on the number of elders and ministerial servants in the united states.

i can't remember who said it, but one poster said a co commented that "there are more elders than ministerial servants.".

is this true?

JT

Some elders found it hard to let a sister read at the book study when no qualified brother was present. They would rather use a brother who could barely read so that the book study went over time regularly. Once this elder tried to have an unbaptized brother read, but the sisters complained vociferously about that.

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this is so funny- in my old bookstudy i had a single sister who was a Dr. i always tried to make the meeting interesting by bringin in extra little points, so it would not be so boring COME ON I MEAN THE UNITED IN WORSHIP AND REV BOOK STUDIED 9 TIMES IN THEBOOK STUDY--s mile

anyway on this one night she invited another female Dr to the BS well i got tied up and was not able to make the meeting so i called my asst to let him know, unbeknown to me he could not make it either so he called and left a message for me that he would not be there- anyway we both missed themeeting, so the only other one there was this other bro who could not read that well, but since he was a bro the according to wt Organizational procedures has to instead of a woman

so here she has invited this doctor to come with her and he not only CONDUCTED BUT ALSO READ

she was so embarassed by this ,, she called me later that night to tell me how her friend was in totally shock that this man was the instructor and the only reason is BECAUSE HE IS A MAN-

it was a classic wt mindset at work

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If attending meetings: Are brothers still "reaching out" ?

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

it's been a while since i read any figures on the number of elders and ministerial servants in the united states.

i can't remember who said it, but one poster said a co commented that "there are more elders than ministerial servants.".

is this true?

JT

JWs will fall apart unless it allows for female elders and MSes. THe men just dont have time for it unles they are on some type of governtment assitances. Most of the regular elders I know are retired, disabled, or independantly wealthy/ financially secure. Everyone else is working overtime or taking classes to keep food on the table. They always defer the task in the hall to the ill, well off, or retired brothers. The ill brothers can barely work so that leaves people that dont need jws or are afraid they are going to die to carry the burden.

This is causing corruption by necessity in some places. Being extra lax just to keep the hall running

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this is so true, the jw of today is not the jw of old, they are tired and worn out, the new jw pay little if any attention to such things as CAN YOU REDUCE YOUR STANDARD OF LVING AND PIONEER

that is why they had to lower the hours they lose so many pioneers each year- while the wt will give the number of pio coming on the list, in some years they lose more than come on the list

they used to give dfing numbers the last published figure was over 40,000, THEN THEY STOPPED we ask our CO why and since we had 5 former bethelites in our hall , the co was a bethelite, he felt comfortable talking, he told us the last figure he was told by Service was over 60,000 and they made a decsion not to publish it due to it would discourage the bro-

keep in mind that for each DFing they avg around 2-3 private or public reproofs,, while a large percentage do come back from what i am told the numbers are staggering, then in some cases you have folks who get dfed 2 or 3 times during a life time as jw-

being that wt is obsessed with NUMBERS- their numbers are not looking good, only in the last few years have i every heard and i have been around for over 35yrs where there are circuit assemblies and NO ONE GETS BAPTIZED

that was unheard of years ago, today it happens more than the wt want it to-- they have a stat they work off, it is 1% of attendance

1000 folks in attendance = 10 baptized and any thing less than that is considered NOT GOOD

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If attending meetings: Are brothers still "reaching out" ?

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

it's been a while since i read any figures on the number of elders and ministerial servants in the united states.

i can't remember who said it, but one poster said a co commented that "there are more elders than ministerial servants.".

is this true?

JT

Then one elder approached me and said that , "The circuit overseer won't look at any one whose hours are below 10."

Is this true? Another unwritten rule? You have to do 10 hours a month to have your report card seriously looked at by a circuit overseer?

*****888

this has always been the standard unless there are some specail reason, you got no legs or arms, in a wheel chair, etc

otehr than that you need at least 10hrs and that is understandable, wt is a corp my man plain an simple, if the NATIONAL AVG IS 9 and you are suppose to be leading the troops out in service with respect and high regard how can you do that with a 3.2 hr avg smile

What happened to the qualifications in the book of Timothy, husband of one wife, moderate in habits?

## tell me you are joking i know you didnt actually think these were the qualifiacations did you, tell us you are joking??

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What Is The Most Successful Way To Get Rid of Jehovah's Witneses?

by minimus in

jw
friends

any ideas???

?

JT

One cool way that i have suggested to nonjw is to tell the jw that they are DFed and don't plan on coming back-

their house is marked and for many esp in the hood where they work the territory almost twice a month- it works like a charm

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Please help! ( I have a question?)

by bsylva in

my question is this,.

and she loves me as well.

however i was baptised as a catholic as a child.

JT

be thankful you found out ON THIS SIDE OF THE MARRIAGE MY MAN

i used to be an elder and i used to cousel women just like your girlfrined about marriying men just like you AND THE ADVICE WASN';T GOOD- SMILE

YOU have before you the greatest opportunity in the world, you have no ideal how badly many of us posting only wish we had the NET like you do to ask questions before we became involved in the jw, but we didn't and so for folks like myself and so many others here, we suffered for some 30yrs

if you need to talk feel free to call me in wash dc 301-209-4629 or email me if you feel more comfortable

[email protected]

best wishes