Welcome Crank,
I hope that you find the encouragement that you need here and I'm sure that you'll make a lot of friends.
this is my very first post here at jwn.
i have been "lurking" here for a few months as i have slowly faded over the past year.
so i figured it was time to become a full blown jw opposer, and i tell you it couldnt feel better!.
Welcome Crank,
I hope that you find the encouragement that you need here and I'm sure that you'll make a lot of friends.
i would copy and paste my emails with my mom, but that would probably be too revealing.. anyway, i said in a post a while back that i was going to tell my mom i no longer want anything to do with the organization.
there have been a series of emails between the two of us lately and she was probing to see what was going on with me.
i haven't been out in fs in almost a year and i haven't been to a thursday night mtg in over 9 months.
Very courageous. I wish that I could have done a long time ago. Right now in my life, I owe no one any explanations about what I do with my life anymore. The guilt trips and love fests don't work. I am a grown woman and I don't owe any group of men any reasons as to why I no longer attend the meetings anymore. Too many of us have given them the too much control of our lives when we don't need to. Like someone said above, they would never catch me in any meetings with any elders. Hell, they need to clean up their own messes in their lives.
i see some here who seem to despise the religion.
others seem to feel that witnesses are wacky but they don't hate them.. do you hate this religion?.
I hate the Borg for destroying many families. Most of the people that I have met have been pleasant. You do get those ones who live and breathe for the Borg and that is very unfortunate.
i know that some of you might think that i really should be reading the wt but with a husband still in and being that i am still very tied to the religion though him i want to know what is up with them in some ways.. the march 15th wt made me feel sick.
on page 5 it was talking about how we need to wait on jehovah.
it was really the same old stuff but i feel with a different twist.
This is same ole same ole. I have been hearing these types of illustrations for years. It's just that the names change. We can never do enough in the preaching work. I used to get the guilt trip from several sisters who thought that I just could walk up to my boss and demand some days off. They tried to present several ways that this could be done. It was always those sisters who did not work for themselves and had husbands at home. In the real world, you don't do that and especially now that the economy sucks and many are out of work. And if I were to take them up on their suggestions, would I just rely on Jehovah to take care of me, or for that matter, rely on the good graces of the congregation. I would be called lazy and they would be unwilling to come to my aid.
i don't know what it is ...... but it's becoming disconcerting.
he's going to just have to sit outside the door and wait.
i know it will be dissappointing to him , as he purrs like crazy while gathering in the experience.
Wow, so many responses. Well I go to use the bathroom again and before I get in the door real good, my big black big eyed cat beats me to it. She is actually waiting for me to sit on my throne. Now that's funny. Cats are real weird anyway, so I guess I better get ready to assume the position!
the witness came to my house on jan 8 2011 it was completely unannounced.i just wush they would leave us alone.
by the way happy new year everyone i hope you had a goof christmas..
Just ignore them and don't open your door. You get used to it after a while. I don't open my door to anyone who does not let me know prior to coming to my home. It is just plain rude.
everytime i have ever told an active jw about this forum and described it's designation they all, in essence, say the same thing.. they say that we are nitpickers, that we are all just rubbed the wrong way and can't get out of the state of disgruntlement that we have allowed ourselves to enter.
some throw in supernatural elements some just stick to human imperfection and call it murmurings.. these kind of assertions highly imply that our anger is exaggerated or misguided; that we don't have all facts and are drawing highly speculative conclusions.. as participants on this forum how do you refute such a claim?.
my first thought would be to point out that "murmurings" is what created the watchtower to start with.
Good comparison, Sab.
Unless you have dealt with a certain situation and had similar experiences that Ex-JW's/Faders, etc, you can't possibly understand how the other person feels. It is so easy to label us as "disgruntled". I did not understand what an "apostate" is until I started questioning the hows and whys. Everything is great when you don't question anything and you just accept everything that the Borg tells you. It is definately not a "Thinking Man's" religion.
i used to pioneer and all that and new the bible well and could cite scriptures backwards and forwards...(i regret i didn't have any other skills to brag abt).
today i hardly recall any scriptures...(except for matt 24:14 that may never go away though ).
since i left i haven't opened a bible ones.
I still know where to locate the chapters/verses when needed. I think I still know about 5 scriptures by heart because I don't read it like I used to.
i can't believe the amount of new posters this board is getting.
it seems as if every day there are at least 2 to 3.. if you are a new poster, what made you decide to stop lurking and start posting?
how many of us are there that have joined in the last year?.
I lurked for a while and then there were some posters who had similar stories to mine that I just had to join in. I did not have anyone who I felt understood where I was coming from. I had some problems with the "NOO LIGHT" that was constantly flip flopping the issues. I had problems with some in the KH that did not not show "brotherly love" and I no longer wanted to be a part of it. Asking valid questions about the Borg and doing research are things that the WTBTS seems to forbid, so why would I want to remain "spiritually fed" by it and be stuck on stupid.
was there a person, a book, a situation that helped you see that the "truth" was not what it was supposed to be?
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I did not agree with how the Borg viewed women. Basically, we were to be seen and not heard and I felt that I no longer wanted to be apart of a religion that did not view me as important. Oh, yes, we are the majority and we do most of the preaching work and provide unpaid labor to cook, clean, etc when the Borg needs us to. I will no longer waste my time and talent. Most of the "brothers" that I have dealt with are not college educated and do not have my life experiences. I don't have confidence in "men" who don't know what life's all about. In the real world, it does not matter how many hours of service or placement of magazines that you devote. As a woman, I have just as many qualifications/experiences that most male witnesses do. I know for a fact that I can speak intelligently than I hear from most speakers from the podium. But because I have breasts and a monthly cycle, I don't qualify. Also, the flip flopping of the issues also helped my interest wane. There are so many more, but these get me riled up.