Put yourself in control of the situation.....be like Britians Royal Family ...... Never appologize for yourself, Never explain yourself....Never Make excuces.....doing so implies weakness and guilt. You owe them nothing....your relationship with God is between you and him....period.
exwhyzee
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I ended up in the back room of the KH today
by Nobleheart inour public talk and wt study is on saturdays.
i was informed by an elder that i shouldn't leave right away after the meeting.. immediately i had a sinking feeling in my stomach.
but not as bad as i would have felt about it months ago.
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They really are pooping their pants over these latest "signs"...
by undercover ini've seen a few threads/posts where some of y'all have heard from jw contacts and how they've stepped up their 'the end is close' rhetoric because of the earthquake/tsunami in japan.
i usually take those things with a grain of salt.
there's always some jw whose cheese has slipped that reads prophecy into every little thing that happens.
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I was listening to the news yesterday and all the talk regarding the negative effects the bad economy has had on the country over the last three years. Then I remembered that 3 years ago when the economy was considered good.....the news had nothing but doom and gloom and that no one could possibly survive it.
Good news doesn't sell and it doesn't motivate people to do what you want them to like fear does. Pervayors of doom and gloom always seem more acurate though...so people pay more attention to them....just in case.
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Your favorite "bumper stickers"
by new boy ini have two.
"please god protect me from your people".
"if you love something let go.......if it doesn't come back, hunt in down and kill it" .
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Dear Auntie Em.....Hate You....Hate Kansas....Taking the Dog...Love Dorothy.
Abandon The Search For Truth....Settle For A Good Fantasy.
What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about ?
My Kid beat the S_ _ _ T out of your Honor Student at Mayfair Elementary School.
VIZUALIZE WHIRRLED PEAS
I , Have The Body of An 18 Year Old Swimmer....( in my freezer)
Doo Doo Happens !
Every Time You Vote Republican, God Kills Another Kitten
You'reJust Jealous Because The Voices Are Talking To...ME !
Pray For Obama Psalms 109:8 (may his days be few and may another take his place of leadership)
Fat People Are Harder To Kidnap!
The Sky Is Always Bluer At The Top Of The Windshield !
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Being a JW Kid
by Scully ini've always felt that the adult jws got off pretty easily compared to jw kids.. for instance: .
my dad went to work, and didn't bother his co-workers with jw stuff.
it wasn't allowed.
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You're right Scully, I hadn't thought of it in that light before....JW kids are especially victimized by all the oddities of this religion. Adult victims of this religion at least have a larger frame of reference from which to draw from and are able to side step all the stuff that doesn't add up when put in practice in the real world. The thing is, JW kids grow up to be JW adults who never really quite get over having had much of the shine and sparkle rubbed off their young lives by having lived with a constant expectation of a cataclysmic that never materialized. The only thing they can do is make sure the same thing doesn't happen to their own kids....even if they choose to stay in.
this teacher would pull me to my feet by the hair on the back of my neck. My parents never did anything to intervene, saying that it was 'persecution' and we should
be glad about it.
Your parents were wrong not to have come to your rescue in this....makes my blood boil to think about someone doing that to a child.
Wouldn't you love to confront that teacher as the adult you are now?
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The elders are asking around about me since I faded - they just put this up on the information board at the hall
by just n from bethel in.
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Lionel has "Committee hair" won't be able to answer or give talks till he gets it cut.
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THE ANALOGY OF LEAVING THE ORGANIZATION OF JWs
by PublishingCult incan you give an analogy of what it was like (for you personally) leaving the organization of jehovahs witnesses?.
for me, it was very much like the story of mountain climber aron ralston.
the canyon wall of the narrow passage was the watchtower bible & tract society.
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For me, staying in the organization was like the woman who stays in an abusive or loveless marriage because her husband had convinced her she was useless without him. Once she leaves she realizes the control he had on her mind and how distorted her thinking had become
"Better the devil you know. than the one you don't know" is often the reasoning that makes one cling to something that clearly isn't working anymore.
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"See! See? Just as like the bible says! earthquakes are increasing!"
by highdose inwhich is what a dub said to me today.
i would like to come back to him with evidence that they are not.
does anyone have any helpful links they could post to refute this?.
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I don't think individual JW's really look forward to the destruction of mankind or seeing anyone die. I do however think that their own personal doubts and the lack of any real conclusive evidence of their beliefs being based in reality. makes them appear that way . When something happens that even comes close to making their fantasy appear real, they are quite releived even elated. They are constantly on the look out for evidence no matter how feeble, to prove their beliefs correct or to compensate for the dissapointment/embarrasment of having had every significant date they ever looked toward, proven wrong. They are overjoyed not by the deaths of thousands, but by the prospect that maybe they haven't been misled or have wasted their lives afterall.
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About the Adam and Eve time gap....
by Lozhasleft inwhat's got me a bit befuddled is this.... when eve was created she was physically perfect right?
and apparently god blessed them which counted as a marriage.
so....that means that satan's deception of eve must have been almost immediate?....because being perfect she would have conceived virtually straight away, surely?
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As long as we're makin' up stories...who says Eve was created as an adult? Maybe Adam's rib wasn't big enough to make a full grown Woman so she had to be created as a child. Maybe she didn't get her monthly "curse" until after she grew up and she and ate the magic fruit and was cursed for real. ( I'm just sayin')
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hey.......Hello
by Snowboarder inhey what's up everone?
i'm new to here.
it took a while for me to get this hard feelings out of my system....yup....i'm 18 and i'm on my last year of high school...this year i'm taking it online i don't mind it's ok..i do miss the people at school..as u know my parents r jw and i'm one too...i am very active and i do it all for my parents and to avoid confllict but recenlty i just don't like some of bans no what u can and can't do...i'm behind on school beacuse i reg pio...i'm a active person...i really want to leave this reglion beacuse one i can't visit my family grandparents and cousins in europe beacuse they "worldly"....this for me is bs...so stupid....it's my family... if i do leave the jw it's not like i'm going to do drugs and drink or smoke...my goals r to be in the olympics and to start snowboard cross...i'm going to join a snowboard club next season....i don't care anymore about what people think...it's not like i'm doing something bad..it's something that will bring me joy....today my mom was questioning me like crazy about my new jw friend that i ski with....there was a friend of a friend last year that i hang out once with he was a so called good exmaple but he quit the jw and started drinking and smoking so...yup he's dumb...now my mom is like questioning every i associate with..i hardly have any friends and my life sucks..i want to make it better by snowboard more...i'm allowed to go every secound day as long as i prepair for the crappy propangda meetings....ya...support is hard when my parents don't support my dreams but when i do get in the olympics u have only myself to thank beacuse every time i pratice i have bad snowboard days and good i feel like crying at the mountain my heart breaks i want to be faster and better...i want to be the best.. i told my mom i want to be the best snowboarder out there for snowboard cross and she was like humble yourself and all this jw crap...i just don't know how to put it into words.....it's like a backworkd train...i tried to a last attemt at this jw by trying to join a foriegn group...but it failed bad and that was like the straw that broke my back...years of holding my back of trainnign and being active is making me to go crazy ....it's hard i'm just trying to get my pain out when u fall on your snowborad u have to encorage your self u have to train your self u have to push yourself..i wish i could start life all over agian...the war in my country runid a large part and now this....when ur younger u don't know better and this relgion seems good but when u age and watch the olympics like i do and then watch it live...i got a job at the vanoc thing so i was there...it's a different experience to race ....my country did not do so well and i wish i could represent them and get a gold medal....u know it would make my life better....and bring hope to tons of people facing the same story as me....i was a jw from when i was 10 so i kindof miss chirstmas and holidays but i don't care anymore.....my dad came home talk latter.
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Like you, all my relatives are in Europe and are not Witnesses. My parents came to the U.S to give us good opportunities. 5 minutes after arriving my Mother was contacted by the Witnesses. SLAM.....all door were closed to us kids as far as taking advantage of the opportunities to be had here in terms of education, sports, travel, friends, clubs etc. We were stuck in some Kingdom Hall with a bunch of backward people being taught that the world was going to end any minute and our father would be destroyed for having studied with the Witnesses but didn't get baptized. Looking back over the years I realize now that I could have appealed to my relatives for help in getting out of the cult. If they knew what was going on and that I was being taught that they were going to be destroyed, they surely would have intervened . I didn't think of it when I was a kid. Maybe this is something for you to think about ?
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New member - my story
by Millions injust a brief introduction, i thought i would try out one of the more established forums, have done some stuff on youtube and other places but thought i would give this a try.. potted history: raised jw by mother, in it for 30 years or so, baptised at age 18, regular pioneer at 20, ms a couple years later, mts at 26 and got assignment to a new cong, elder at around 29, came off pioneering around 31, came off as elder around 32, started to slowly wind down, completely stopped attending about 3 years ago, disassociated dec 2010. pause for breath.. the last 5 years or so have been a painfully gradual process of deconstructing myself and then piecing together fragments of my shattered life that are still valid outside the organisation.
the question 'who am i?
' has been a continual investigation; every day for the first couple of years i would realise another subject or issue that i didn't have my own opinions about.
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I managed to successfully acquire copies of Bethel's information on me, via the Data Protection Act.
MILLIONS.....could you give a little more detail about the Data Protection Act and the kind of information Bethel keeps on JW's. Why it was helpful for you to get this information and how did you go about getting the it from them ?
Thanks !