Posts by exwhyzee

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I have decided that I am a now a "No-Hova Witness", how about you?

by Wasanelder Once in

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i've gone from being indifferent to becoming an full fledge non believer in anything much.

i guess i'm now a "no-hova" witness.

there's nothing about the wt or the bible for that matter that holds any importance in my life or death.

exwhyzee

Most everything has gone wireless and paperless these days. Why not become an enlarged Apostate and go Hovaless while you're at it ?

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DO NOT have children in this system!!

by What Now? in

growing up, this is something that my other always told me.

i've had several conversations with older sisters who have said that if they could do things over, they wouldn't have had children.

other couples my own age are horrified at the thought of raising children in "this system".

Thinking the world has gone to hell in a handbasket and that things aren't as wonderful as they were back in the good ol' days, is a phenomenon that happens to people beginning in their late fourties (if they let it) when they are old enough to look back on their lives and see them nostalgically and gloss over the problems of yesteryear. They put on rose colored glasses whenever they cast their eyes back to their youths but they don darkly tinted ones when they gaze into the scary uncertain future. Every generation thinks the next one in line has a future fraught with woe. It was old guys who wrote the Bible and it's old guys who write the Watchtower. Doom and gloom is how they are feeling and consequently that is all they see and that is likely because they are dissatisfied with themselves and dissapointed about something. It's easier to blame something outside themselves than to realize they didn't live up to their own expectations.

Somehow the majority of Witnesses can go from door to door telling people that the world is about to end yet at the same time go on having children, having baby showers, asking the parents of newlyweds if they are hoping to have grandchildren soon. Most of the young ones, thanfully, still haven't had all the sparkle rubbed off their young lives by these grumpy old ones, hard as they may have tried. The ever present hope of youth hasn't been vanquished entirely and although their JW mouths are chanting the doom and gloom speak of their leaders, instinct and hope wins out in the end and babies are born. Life goes on, people always find a way to manage, children grow up and look back on their childhoods with fondness no matter how bad their grandparents say things have gotten.

My boys grew up in the 80's and 90's. I've often heard them talking fondly about thier school days and childhood experiences. Yet when I graduated from High School in 1975 the earth wasn't supposed to be inhabitable if the System of things didn't come to and end immediately. Jacques Cousteau predicted the the oceans would be void of all life by the end of the decade and oh how the Witnesses loved hearing things like that. In 1969 my Mother was pregnant with my youngest sister. A cargroup of Sisters came to visit her and basically scared the joy out of her with all the "woe to those suckling a baby" doom and gloom. That was 42years ago.

My oldest Son and his wife want to have a child soon. The grumpy old man in me wants to warn them off the idea but the wise old man in me knows that life will go on and youth and energy will not be stopped. Why spoil the newness of life for them just because I am beginning to feel a bit tired and things aren't as rosy as I remember them?

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Married for all eternity ?

by exwhyzee in

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when you were a witness, did you ever think about being married to the same person for all eternity?

did it seem like a reality to you or was it sort of too out there to really comprehend, much like paradise and living forever is or even the concept of god having always existed ?.

i remember a sister in our congregation whose husband was unbelieving and the marriage was really bad.

exwhyzee

I suppose one could view thousands of individuals spending a good chunk of their lives and basing major life decisions around a cataclysmic event that never occured as romantic. Especially if it didn't happen to you. Others might view it as pathetic I suppose. But Either way it was all for nothing.

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Married for all eternity ?

by exwhyzee in

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when you were a witness, did you ever think about being married to the same person for all eternity?

did it seem like a reality to you or was it sort of too out there to really comprehend, much like paradise and living forever is or even the concept of god having always existed ?.

i remember a sister in our congregation whose husband was unbelieving and the marriage was really bad.

exwhyzee

Yes ,Blondie it was a strange time. Some JW's weren't getting married at all because the end was so near. Remember the "Triple A" club ? AAA Available After Armegeddon. Others that were married, held off having children because of the fears and hardships of going through the tribulation with little children. Some young people were getting married because they thought they might not live through the tribulation and ever get to experience marriage/sex. Other couples had kids so that if they didn't live through the tribulation they would still be able to sitll have a family in the new system even if they weren't still married after the resurrection . I'm sure some who weren't happily married thought that either by death in the tribulation or some new arrangement their current marriage might not be in effect in the new system.

Here we are 36 years later. 36 years of not having a clue as to what the real truth about anyting is. All that worry and concern and missed opportunity for nothing.

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WHAT DO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES DO ON CHRISTMAS DAY ?

by Hairyhegoat in

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we ways went on the menastry !.

this was always a waist of time on xmas day, but you know what we always has a full turkey dinner after getting back from the door knocking.. i live in the uk at the moment but will soon move to alberta in canada, what did your jw family do on xmas day did you have family over etc... .

this year we had nobody.

exwhyzee

I live in the foothills of the Cascade Mountains so we'd go up to the ski slopes every Christmas and New years. Since almost every adult was a janitor or the equivalent, if we wanted to be with our friends we had to slide down the slopes near the parking lot on innertubes instead of skiing like we'd have liked to. We were little kids so it was still fun because it was the only time we got to do anything as a group other than the occasional wedding. I rememer one Elder (also a janitor) standing at the top of the slopes shouting " WHO SAYS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES NEVER GET TO HAVE ANY FUN ? "

One year my Mom and three other sisters got on a huge innertube. Mom was in the middle with her arms spread out. The two sisters laid across her arms and they all held on for dear life. Because of their combined weight, they went farther and faster than anyone. We looked on in horror as they went off the slopes and down into the trees. Mom couldn't protect herself beccause the two sisters had her arms pinned down. She wound up with a broken nose when a tree branch struck her across the face.

Later as teens, we were able to buy our own skis and lift tickets and drive ourselves up to the slopes. It was JW day and a lot of fun knowing or meeting everyone from other Halls and having the whole place to ourselves until the sad and wicked worldly kids showed up later on with the new skis and ski cloths they got for Christmas.

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Married for all eternity ?

by exwhyzee in

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when you were a witness, did you ever think about being married to the same person for all eternity?

did it seem like a reality to you or was it sort of too out there to really comprehend, much like paradise and living forever is or even the concept of god having always existed ?.

i remember a sister in our congregation whose husband was unbelieving and the marriage was really bad.

exwhyzee

When you were a Witness, did you ever think about being married to the same person for all eternity? I mean really think it through? If so, what did you think about that? Did it seem like a reality to you or was it sort of too out there to really comprehend, much like paradise and living forever is or even the concept of God having always existed ?

I remember a Sister in our congregation whose husband was unbelieving and the marriage was really bad. She often said that she felt that she should be scripturally free to leave him and remarry since she didn't even know the true God Jehovah when she was married in a church. Since the Witnesses believe that she was married by an institution run by Satan then her marriage should not be considered binding before Jehovah. She didn't want her husband to become a Witness either because that would mean she would end up married to him for all eternity. She even said if he ever did become a Witness, she hoped that one of them would die in the tribulation so as not to have to be married to eachother for all eternity. Apparently she had been thinking this whole matter through in some detail and it was a reality for her. A reality she dreaded.

My wife and I were well matched from the start but I did sometimes wonder if after 3 million years it would still be good. I always figured I'd cross that bridge when I came to it and figure it out with my perfect mind. After 30 years of marriage and two kids, I can't imagine myself being married to someone else nor would I want to be. I question/doub't everything I ever learned from JW's about God and the Bible now and it doesn't really matter to me if there is a paradise or not anymore. I can understand people not wanting to die but still can't fathom living forever or even being married to the same person forever or how either of these could be a good thing.

What are your thoughts?

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A concerned JW wrote "mistakes will happen."

by InterestedOne in

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in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.

mistakes will happen.

concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?

exwhyzee

MISTAKES MADE BY NON WITNESS RELIGIOUS GROUPS = FALSE RELIGION INSPIRED BY SATAN.....DESTRUCTION AT ARMGEDDON.

MISTAKES MADE BY THE GOVERNING BODY= WE WEREN'T READY FOR THE WHOLE TRUTH YET, SO JEHOVAH BROKE IT TO US GENTLY AND HE LOVINGLY HELD ARMEGEDDON OFF FOR GENERATIONS WHILE WE WERE BELIEVING AND TEACHING FALSHOODS, CONDEMNING OTHER PEOPLES BELIEFS, SPREADING OUR MISTAKES AROUND THE GLOBE WITH OUR LITERATURE MAKING FOOLS OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO SPENT MILLIONS OF HOURS LEARNING OUR MISTAKES AND DISTRIBUTING THEM DEFENDING THEM AND EVEN DYING BECAUSE OF THEM.... OOOPS !

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My Wedding Photos are. . .

by leavingwt in

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chock full of jehovah's witnesses.

with the exception of my wife and my best man, they're all jws.

jws who probably despise me.

exwhyzee

Our Wedding was at the KH.

Emblazoned over our heads in what would have otherwise been a nice photo taken during the cerimony, is the year text Isaiah 6:8 "Here I am send me send me, send me".

Not very attractive but come to think of it, I guess we could have them photoshopped out.

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what, exactly, did we witness?

by stillin in

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i mean, in a passive sense of the word, to witness means that we saw something or heard something.

in an active sense, we share our experience with somebody who wasn't there.. ok, "witnessing for god's kingdom" means that we somehow know something about it that needs to be shared with others.

we saw something and now we are testifying about it; but i don't seem to be able to recall what it was that i saw.

exwhyzee

Your question did remind me of the time when my Aunt in Wales was turning into her driveway when another car hit her from behind. Several people came forward and said they had seen the accident and would be happy to come to her aid as witnesses if needed. The next day her husband was out mowing the lawn when two people stopped by the house. My Aunt answered the door and over the sound of the lawn mower, heard them say something about being witnesses. She directed them to her husband who was handling the accident claim with their insurance co. Later, when she heard the lawn mower start up again, she looked out the window only to see the two visitors trotting back and forth across the yard holding out some kind of magazines to her husband as he mowed and tried to ignore them. Later when he came into the house, he told her it had been Jehovah's Witnesses...not witnesses to her car accident.

Anyway, I think they use the term Witness in this case because anyone giving testimony is expected to tell The Truth.

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First Attempt with my mom

by jworld in

this was to much, i had to write my mom in an attempt to see if she would think outside of the box.

i have brought this subject up with them before regarding how the truth really isn't being preached in the entire earth and what that means for all those people.. this is what i sent:.

iran's supreme court says an evangelical pastor charged with apostasy can be executed if he does not recant his faith, according to a copy of the verdict obtained by a religious rights activist group.

exwhyzee

Well, there are accounts in the Bible of people who were in nations that didn't worship Jehovah (Rahab, for one)

I'm suprised Ol' Mom didn't bring up the account of Shadrack Meshack and Abednego who were thrown into the firey furnace rather than bow down to Baal...always an old standby, not that it would apply in this case since the Evangelical Pastor will die in vain seeing as how God only accepts sacrafices made by Jehovah's Witnesses.