Wow, this brings back memories. Bro Swingle was a nice ol guy. But I'm reinded of how being at Bethel was very often like attending a daily funeral service.
Where did you get this and what made you post it Randy?
https://vimeo.com/41590728.
https://vimeo.com/41590728.
how in the world do you embed videos on this site?.
Wow, this brings back memories. Bro Swingle was a nice ol guy. But I'm reinded of how being at Bethel was very often like attending a daily funeral service.
Where did you get this and what made you post it Randy?
i was considered "exemplary" but i defintely liked my drinking with my other fellow examples.. porn was never a terrible thing to me.
i looked.. throwing in a few extra hours and placements worked pretty well for me too..
Does anyone see a connection here? We have a load of former JW's commenting on all the things they did that were considered wrong for a JW to do, who then wound up leaving altogether for one reason or another.
When I was "IN" I did my best to walk the talk. I'm not sure which happened first....doing things based on my own conscience after I began seeing through all the WT B.S. and then finally leaving , or if my leaving was ultimately caused by doing things based on my own conscience rather than by the WT's "book". Current JW's would have you believe that it was our own independant thinking that led us astray and into Satan's clutches.
did it bug you as a witness that jesus only had to go from door to door for 3.5 years, and he was done; while he demanded that you do it for your whole life without preparing for the morrow?
i just remember a few years back reflecting on the daunting prospect of doing it my whole life if the end didn't come - "sooner rather than later".
what are your thoughts?.
I couldn't imagine a lifetime of going from door to door or sitting through the theocratic ministry school for the rest of my life learning how to do it. Toward the end, I thought I'd loose my mind if I had to sit through one more Watchtower study as they plodded along trying to make some point that was obvious 6 paragraphs ago.
I never liked the fact that you had to put your name on the field service time slip or that you'd be counted "irregular" for six months if you didn't turn in any time one month as if that was some shameful thing.
Maybe the Mormons are onto something witht their 2 year missions.
i was considered "exemplary" but i defintely liked my drinking with my other fellow examples.. porn was never a terrible thing to me.
i looked.. throwing in a few extra hours and placements worked pretty well for me too..
I bought a two door car (gasp)
I read the Harry Potter books .
I sat through the written review without answering the questions.
I went to meeting wearing a shirt and tie and a suede jacket.
I voted for something at work.
I bought a lottery ticket
I put money in a slot machine in Vegas and won $75.00
Someone wished me a "Happy New Year" and I daringly said "same to you".
i allowed my Boys to be on the swim team and wrestling team all through Jr High and High School despite all the "pursed lips" from the JW relatives.
i was considered "exemplary" but i defintely liked my drinking with my other fellow examples.. porn was never a terrible thing to me.
i looked.. throwing in a few extra hours and placements worked pretty well for me too..
My wife and I never understood the sanction against Birthdays and we always acknowledged our boy's birthdays by bringing home something special just for them, even if it was only a chocolate eclair. We'd give them a (pretend)swat for each year of their age and a pinch to grow an inch, which involved a chase throught the house to capture them so we could administer their swats. We'd always recount the story of the midnight trip to the hospital and their delivery and how each of them knew to be born on a week day rather than a weekend so that their Dad would get a few days of work LOL ! We always kept this little tradition to ourselves...didn't even tell family members for fear they'd give us the stink eye. We've kept this going even thought they are grown up. This year I send them a text message at midnight that said " What world changing event happened on this day x amount of years ago ? A correct answer will get you a gift certificate to go indoor skydiving with your Dad.
Now that they are grown, I'd have a very empty feeling inside if I hadn't done this little thing for them. I wish I'd have done a full on party for them but at least we made a fuss over them and made sure they knew how lucky we were to have them and flad that they had made it through lifes perils one more year.
sooo i was a ministerial servant (omg a ministerial servant on this site!?
you apostate!!!
) yea yea i just wanted to see what other people think and whatever, coz i had a few questions myself, (butttt its not like i was about to start throwing them with rocks and stuff, they arent that bad).
Should you appeal the decision to remove you as a M.S ?
The fact that you are on this site and the fact that you even have to ask, should be answer enough.
do you know of any "jw" teenagers that were very bad in morals, but later in life they become elders, elderettes, etc...?
what were they like?
what are they like today?.
It goes in cycles.Those who wind up in a position of authority who were very "naughty" as teens or young adults, make the most suspicious Elders and the strictest parents. Those who find themselves under their control end up having to either conform, rebel or learn to be very sneaky.
The rebellious ones leave because they don't care if they suffer for the sake of their own integrity. If they do come back they try to change things for the better.
The sneaky ones who make it, either straighten up or get even better at being deceptive. Either way they become suspicous of everyone else because they assume everyone else is just like them.
The conformists are so naive' and trusting and unable to think for themselves that they are often rendered incapable of being effective leaders in the first place.
"what is history, but a fable agreed upon".
-napoleon.
it seems to me that this quote could be applied to certain bible accounts as well.when seen as fables, they can transform us but when seen as literal their meaning or purpose is often lost or dies.
"What is history, but a fable agreed upon"
-Napoleon
It seems to me that this quote could be applied to certain Bible accounts as well. When seen as fables, they can transform us but when seen as literal their meaning or purpose is often lost or dies.
does jehovah know what is going on, and does he help?.
(as told by bro.
spangenberg, c.o.
My son's are friends with two really nice Mormon brothers. They told some of the same anecdotes we've all heard that were supposed to have happened to JW's only in their version it was God helping Mormons.