Giving a talk about "doubts" and having it strike a chord with someone in an audience full of JW's is like shooting fish in a barrel. A talk on "doubts" is a one size fits all, fill in topic suitable for any such emergency such as when a speaker doesn't show up. To think God is sending you little "hints" sounds a bit egocentric especially when there is so much suffering in the world and there are so many who in dire need of the basic necessities of life and who need his help urgently yet receive nothing .
exwhyzee
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This was my 'Sign'
by MsGrowingGirl20 inin my previous post i mentioned that i'm staying in the org because i think i got a sign from god...some of you asked a lot of questions about my sign and even shared the society's view on asking for signs which i didn't know.. i didn't disclose exactly what the sign was.. some of you asked me what it was and even stated that i know that you all would pick apart and prove that my sign was just a frivolous excuse to hold on to the org.. maybe you were right.. so i've decided to tell you all exactly what it was---no embellishments or exaggerations.
i would love to hear your opinions since i'm still in a terrible mess.sometimes i'm 100% this is not the truth then other times i'm 60%....i feel if god was giving me a sign i'd be 100% this is the truth you know?.
so i woke up that morning and organized to go meeting.
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Whoa - stop the world - I just got the joke!
by Qcmbr infinally - i get it.
oh my gosh.. .
why did the chicken cross the road?.
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exwhyzee
Why did the Chicken cross the road ?
Because he was Stapled to the Punk Rocker.
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What are us baby boomers in for ? your opinions please !
by caliber inplease see video's .
http://www.chatelaine.com/en/blog/post/39095--retirement-at-80-more-baby-boomers-have-to-stay-in-the-workforce-longer .
the woman at the centre of a landmark court ruling in b.c.
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exwhyzee
You rarely hear anyone talking about the future with a gleeming forecast. When one looks too far into the future it is always fraught with worry and unknown danger. When they used to beleive that the earth was flat, they feared that if you sailed too close to it's edge you would fall off and be eaten by sea monsters. They could have just as easily beleived that magic fairies would be there at the edge of the world to grant you three wishes, but it was far more realistic and accurate to believe in scary sea monsters instead.
I expect the future will be the same as it has been for every other generation that went before us. There will be the same basic problems only with a new moderen twist and there will be new solutions or ways of coping as there always has been. There will be losses and gains. ie : We now have the advantages of highspeed information today but we've lost a lot of privacy and we sometimes know too much too soon yet we'd never go back to how it used to be.
There will be those who face the future with the same grace and dignity as they always have and there will be those who whine kick,scream, worry and complain no matter what anyone does for them or how well things are going.
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I'd hate to be a JW going out in service with all the bad press they're getting right now.
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If I hadn't heard about it on here, I wouldn't have heard about it at all. Not even JW's I know are talking about it or even aware of it. Like everything else they do, it seems to be a non-issue to anyone who doesn't have any connection to the organization. I'm sure JW's who do know about it will be exercising their cognative dissonance abilities to put it all down to "persecution" or "Evil Slaves" being manipulated by Satan. This will be just another feather in their Martyr's cap.
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What was the weirdest thing ever said to you as a JW?
by falseprophet ini was about 8-10 years old and twice i had people tell me that i should not pioneer but to go to bethel because i "was governing body material".. one was a co and another a do.. i didn't even believe in god, never have so that makes it weird!.
what wierd things were told?.
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"There is no room for individuality in the organization"
"Watching the Flintstones reinforces the notion of evolution and the existence of cavemen"
A comment made in 1974 during the WT study. "There is evidence that there has been an increase in carrion birds around the world....this is Jehovah preparing for the after armegeddon cleanup" The conductor said " let's just stick to the information presented in the paragraph please" (cricket cricket)
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How the Shrinking of the Awake! has Affected Many!
by God_Delusion inthe watchtower society never thinks things through.
the halving of the awake!
magazine has had an adverse affect on many.. http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/awake-bloopers/awake-magazine-cut-to-16-pages/.
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Toward the end I could hardly bear sitting through the meetings so I would sometimes slide an Awake magazine inside my Watchtower on Sunday just to pass the time reading Watching the World or some article about "Coping with Sinus Trouble" or "Cheeses of the world" which was preferable to plodding through the current study article again. This might be easier to to accomplish with a thinner Awake.
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How do you make a living?
by paulnotsaul insince most of us believed it was right around the corner, how many of you went to any secondary schools or training?
what do you do now to survive?
are you working or unemployed?
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exwhyzee
AFTER LEAVING BETHEL I TOOK A MEAT CUTTING COURSE BY MAIL BUT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT TOO WELL. THE POSTMAN HAD TROUBLE STUFFING THE BLOODY SLABS OF BEEF THROUGH THE MAIL SLOT IN MY FRONT DOOR. THEN I USED MY FACTORY EXPERIENCE TO GET A JOB AT A SHOE MANUFACTURER WHERE I WAS PUT IN CHARGE OF GLUING THOSE LITTLE CELLULOID TIPS ONTO THE ENDS OF SHOE LACES.
BUT SERIOUSLY....
I AM A PROJECT MANAGER AND DEVELOPMENT INSPECTOR FOR A MUNICIPAL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OVERSEEING AND INSPECTING MUNICIPAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS RANGING FROM PUBLIC TRANSIT CENTERS, PARKS, RECONSTRUCTION OF STREETS, INSTALLATIONS OF UTILITIES, SIDEWALKS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS ETC. MY DUTIES ALSO INCLUDE ISSUING OF PERMITS, CODE ENFORCEMENT, OBTAINING GRANTS...BLAH BLAH...
NORMALLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BACHELORS DEGREE TO GET THIS JOB BUT I WAS ABLE TO COMBINE CERTAIN CERTIFICATIONS AND LICENSES I HOLD ALONG WITH TRAINING, PAST EXPERIENCE AND A LITTLE CREATIVE RESUME WRITING TO SQUEEK MYSELF INTO AN INTERVIEW. THEY HIRED ME BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT I COULD DO THE JOB OF COURSE BUT MOSTLY BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT I WOULD BE A GOOD FIT WITH THE DEPARTMENT. I HAVE TO CREDIT THE DOOR TO DOOR WORK AND MINISTRY SCHOOL FOR HELPING ME DO WELL IN INTERVIEWS. (AT LEAST I HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW FOR ALL THOSE YEARS)
I HAD JUST LEFT THE ORGANIZATION, WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF REMODELING MY HOUSE AND MY SON WAS GOING THROUGH CHEMOTHERAPY WHEN I GOT THE JOB. I THOUGHT IF I COULD JUST MAKE IT THROUGH ALL OF THIS TURMOIL AT HOME AND LEARN THIS JOB I CAN DO ANYTHING. THEN THE ECONOMY TANKED. BEING THE NEW GUY I WAS LIVING WEEK TO WEEK...THEN MONTH TO MONTH THINKING IF I CAN JUST MAKE IT TO THE ONE YEAR MARK WITHOUT GETTING LAID OFF, I'LL BE OK. NOWADAYS I'M LOOKING AT THE UPCOMMING FIVE YEAR MARK AS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.
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Help! I'm having serious thoughts about going back
by lola28 inhello old friends, i've been thinking about going back and need you all to give me your thoughts on it.. the last year has been a horribe one for me, in the span of less than a year the following things have happened to me:.
lost my mom to cancergot hit by a carhad a professional set back that will cost over 600k to resolveended a three and a half year relationshipit just feels like every time i think things are going to get better something else hits me and knocks me down, a small part of me wonders wether i brought all these things on myself because i left the organization (yes i know how silly that sounds) and i have given serious thought about going back.
i need you guys to talk me out of it!.
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To go back because you think these bad things have happened to you since you left the organization is to say God is punishing you and also sort of egotistical. If God is truly punishing you, don't you think he'd be even angrier if you go back under false pretenses?
Bad things like this happen to good JW's too. I know a wonderful guy who is the father of 5 kids. He lives for the "TRUTH" in the space of 2 years, he lost his job, had his house repossed and died during surgery for some rare heart defect. He couldn't take Blood and they gave him a 10% chance of surviving with blood and a 1 percent chance without blood. He basically said goodbye to his wife and kids when they wheeled him in to surgery. I know so many cases like this. His wife and kids live in a crummy little rental house because the only job she could get was in a fabric store.
I left the Org and my life was instantly better but I was waiting for the axe to fall. Wasn't Satan supposed to be lying in wait for me? Then a few months later I got the best job of my life..."But wait" I said to myself "Maybe Satan is helping me now that I'm supposedly on his side" Then I realized that my JW training had set me up in two ways. If I leave and do well....it's Satan but if I leave and do badly It's Satan double crossing me and God punishing me.
If you go back, do it for the right reasons, not because you are superstitious.
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If you got apostate vids on Youtube take em off now!!! Legal Dept to Sue!
by smithmandy1 ini've posted this on the wrong section so i'm posting it on here cos its sort of to topic as i know many of you have vids on youtube.
legal department are beginning legal action against google and its uploaders regards to apostate vids that slander the watchtower and/or contain copyrighted material!!!
my hubby knows people who know so heres my warning lol.
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exwhyzee
I apologize if I'm wrong but this post smacks of someone engaging in"spiritual warfare" where the end (gagging WT critics) justifies the means (spreading falsehoods).
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Have you lost your sense of "happy ever after"?
by londonlady ini'm glad to be out but i've since had the sensation that the "happy ever after" ending i always thought would come will not come.
there will be no happy ending, just an oridary life.
thats quite a werid sensation to contemplate... what do you think?.
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On some level I think all JW's and former JW's realize that the JW version of happily ever after will not happen....well at least in their lifetime. I think thats why there's so much depression and anxiety among those who are or were JW's. The dream is only as good as your last meeting. As soon as you miss one or two, the plausability of it fades. The big hook for me as a kid was not getting destroyed at Armegeddon coupled with the idea of having my own pet Lion and Dolphin but I never thought much beyond that. The idea of living forever was one they implanted in my mind, I dont think I'd have expected such a thing on my own. I never felt I could, would or wanted to be as good and religious as they said God expected me to be. It felt hopeless in a way. I didn't want to die a Armegeddon so since I was already here, I may as well try to avoid going that scary route by doing what they said would keep me alive, but it never seemed to be enough. Now the idea of living forever with the Watchtower gang running things seems almost nightmarish in a way. Just because I was randomly born all those years ago meant I was here permenently for all eternity without any choice.
Now that I'm out of the Org, I have resigned myself to the fact that I will grow old and die one day. Sometimes at the end of a long day as I lay my head on my pillow I think I wouldn't mind it so much if I could sleep forever. Don't get me wrong, I think being alive is the best way to be and I always feel like somehow I'll figure out a way to get through whatever lies ahead just like I always have before. That's my happily ever after and it seems do able and real. Once you aren't afraid of dying, you gain a certain peace that makes being alive so much better. Day to day overall I feel more worthy to be included in any good future that is planned for the human race, should such plans exist. I don't see any reason why I should be excluded...like Hitler or Ted Bundy might be. I't has also been a relief to realize that there is no such thing as "wasted time". Time passes whether you use it productively or not. Happily ever after is a day to day goal rather than an eternity goal. And that is within my grasp...my power.