Posts by exwhyzee

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When You Were A Witness Did You Ever Celebrate A Birthday or Holidays?

by minimus in

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i knew some families that celebrated "family day" on christmas eve or some time around the holiday.. i don't know of too many witnesses that actually celebrated but kinda came close....haha.

exwhyzee

Even as a born ins who never had a birthday ourselves we never bought into the whole birthday nonsense even while we were " active" so we always did something special on our boy's birthdates. Sometimes it was a gift or toy or a special desert just for them or something they had been wanting for a long time. The idea was to let them know they were/are very much wanted, loved and it was a very big deal to us that they came into our lives. No matter how old they got, we'd corral them and administer the number of swats per year of age and a pinch to grow an inch and a sock to grow a block followed by a recanting of the story of the night they were born. To this day I do something on their birthdate. The last few years I've sent middle of the night text messages saying " X amount of years ago at this very hour the world became a little more wonderful when a certain little boy came into the world " etc....

We never told anyone about it, family or friends nor did we hide it. It was just a family thing that we felt was up to our own consciences. I was born on the 4th of July and it was always a bummer to have two cool things happening on the same day that I couldn't be part of. Lots of Witnesses who wouldn't dare celebrate a birthday and are utterly against celebrating the 4th of July, see nothing wrong with going to the beach and watching the fireworks along with all the worldly people who do the same thing as part of their celebration. It is such a load of nonsense and I'm glad I at least we can look back and say I made my boys know how special they are to us. It's what parents naturally want to do.

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My Experience in the Watchtower (Part Two)

by Eiben Scrood in

i had related the first part of my story in part one.

thanks for all the responses and sorry for the wait for part two!

part two obviously won't make as much sense if part one hasn't been read.. here is my continuing story:.

exwhyzee

This is so well written, so true to life and it sounds very familiar. Keep going....looking forward to reading the rest.

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Do you think our society is on the verge of collapsing?

by jam in

not to sound like the gloom and doom cult we were apart,.

but are we heading for an collapse in our society?.

iam sure we all are familiar with the signs that bring about.

exwhyzee

I think you are probably at a stage in life where you are realizing everything is not how you thought it was. Society is changing all the time and it always has. Your are probably projecting this disillusionment on the world around you and life in general. Older ones who are feeling tired often don't want to be bothered having to adjust so they see change as bad. They often have the a tendency to look back at the past through rose colored glassess, Glasses that also make the new generation seem as if it's going to hell in a handbasket by comparrison. I bet if you went back to the good ol days that we all think existed just before we were born or when we were small children and had the insight you have now, you'd hate it and be shocked at how narrow, strict, repressed and intolerant folks were. Especially so if you are part of some repressed group of people who's plight has improved with the passage of time.

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Hall - Elders leave disfellowshiped woman with baby carriage at bottom of stairs...is this insane?

by Witness 007 in

exwhyzee

I beleive such an instance wouldn't be too far out of the realm of possibility given the mentality they had back in the day.

In the 70's when we were studying the Sunday Watchtower which basically sort of gave the go ahead to (new) "lighten" up on how hard core we were supposed to be toward DF'd ones, outlining circumstances where it would be acceptable to have some contact with a DF'd person. A sweet old brother raised his hand and made a comment that made his wife whip her head around and stare at him. He said " I've never told anyone about this...not even my wife of 40+years but back in the 1950's when we were living in Minnesota we had a huge snow storm one night I was driving home and I recognized a Disfellowshipped Woman who's car had skidded off the road and was stuck in the snow so I stopped and helped her chain up and I got her car back on the road for her . I've always felt guilty about having done that but I just couldn't risk that she'd be stuck there all night and possibly freeze to death."

Can you imagine even having to question your own actions in such a circumstance and having to feel the need to keep them hidden for 20+ years and then only be able to admit it once you got the nod of approval from the Society ?

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Post 607: Reject 607 BC if You TRULY Trust the Bible!!!

by Londo111 in

therefore, if the 70 years period is for the destruction of jerusalem and exile at babylon:.

if zedekiah had not rebelled against babylon, had he surrendered during the final siege that lasted two and a half years, then the destruction of jerusalem and the deportation need not have happened.

then in the jubilee year, they were set free and their hereditary land was returned to them.

exwhyzee

Marked for later...Thanks !

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Funerals of Disfellowshipped ones.

by exwhyzee in

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friends

some time ago someone posted some information here from some of the wt literature (possibly questions from the readers) that shows it would be inappropriate for a jw to attend the funreal of a disfellowshipped person.

when our son was undergoing cancer treatment while disfellowshipped we realized that if he didn't make it, we'd be on our own to bury him.

thankfully he survived but it was this realization and the way the family and friends abandoned us during our darkest hour that started our exit from the religion and eventually sent us packing for good.

exwhyzee

Thanks Guys....I was almost positive there was a questions from the readers that said it would be inappropriate to attend a funeral of someone who was DF'd. I'm guessing if Blondie didn't find it, it probably doesn't exist.

Thanks again !

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JWs And Near Death Experiences

by Cold Steel in

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exwhyzee

Its funny how you never hear of near death experiences of individuals who saw the devil or hell fire or dead realatives warning them not to "cross over". All you hear about is a white light or welcoming loved ones and other pleasant visions.

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Funerals of Disfellowshipped ones.

by exwhyzee in

jw
friends

some time ago someone posted some information here from some of the wt literature (possibly questions from the readers) that shows it would be inappropriate for a jw to attend the funreal of a disfellowshipped person.

when our son was undergoing cancer treatment while disfellowshipped we realized that if he didn't make it, we'd be on our own to bury him.

thankfully he survived but it was this realization and the way the family and friends abandoned us during our darkest hour that started our exit from the religion and eventually sent us packing for good.

exwhyzee

Some time ago someone posted some information here from some of the WT literature (possibly questions from the readers) that shows it would be inappropriate for a JW to attend the funreal of a disfellowshipped person. When our Son was undergoing Cancer treatment while disfellowshipped we realized that if he didn't make it, we'd be on our own to bury him. Thankfully he survived but it was this realization and the way the family and friends abandoned us during our darkest hour that started our exit from the religion and eventually sent us packing for good. My Sister in Law claims that there is no such edict from the Society about this.

Can anyone direct me to where I might find it. ?

Thanks !

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Are active bethelites sent here to spy?

by EndofMysteries in

i wonder if bethelites are sent here for research, but i can't see any being sent here for research in which it wouldn't awaken them at the same time.

even the governing body themselves may awaken if they were at this board haha.

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exwhyzee

I hope someone from HQ is reading the valueable info posted on here. This site contains the insights of a wide cross section of individuals who for one reason or another became casualties of their organization. If they truly love and value the lives of their flock and of the human race as they say they do, they will acknowledge the wrongs that have been suffered by former members and they will strive to rescue the ones they have left who are dying on the vine while the rest are out knocking on doors looking for new victims.

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JWs And Near Death Experiences

by Cold Steel in

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exwhyzee

Lazarus could have talked his head off about his experience and it might not have been recorded.

Good point...and very amusing too !

I'm glad you brought this topic up as it has also come up three other times this week and I'm beginning to see some common threads that make me think there is something to this. When my Mom (also a JW) died of Cancer at 57 she definetly said things toward the end when she was coming in and out of consciousness that made me think she was seeing something good and pleasant.We thought it was the medication talking but it seemed to be more than that somehow. Her eyes were closed and she sort of smiled and reached out as if she was trying to touch what she was seeing. One of the Elders from the hall said "who's to say what pleasant little image or thought Jehovah might put into the mind of those who are dying" We were just happy that whatever it was, she was at peace and seemed not to be resisting. The nurse told us that sometimes people hang on because they don't think their families are ready let them go. My siblings and I sat next to her bed around the clock and at the last together we told her that we'd see her again and that we'd be ok and it's ok if she'd like to go. A tear rolled down her cheek and my Sister said to me "maybe she's not ready" Suddenly Mom spoke and quietly and most assuredly said "I am ready". That was the last thing she ever said. She died in the small space of time between when my Sister left the room as I was about to enter it. The nurse said that happens all the time. They want privacy while they die. While she was lucid, Mom said dying isn't as bad as it might look.

I think there is a lot more to life/death/dying/God etc than we will ever know on this side of things. All I know is that I have a strong sense that we'll be pleasantly surprised by what is in store for us and we'll have a good laugh at all of our silliness and bickering over such matters.