We had our Memorial at an elementary school one time because our Hall was being remodeled. We were told to arrive on time and to leave promptly as there was another civic group scheduled to use the auditorium after we were done with it. The brothers showed up at the school about twenty minutes beforehand to set up the emblems on the stage. The school custodian was this hefty no nonsense bull of a woman and when she saw them carrying the bottles of wine into her school,she put the kibosh on everything. Apparently it's illegal to have alcohol on school property and no one had thought to check into that. The 3 congregations that meet at our Hall were arriving by the carloads. The brothers turned on the Christian charm and tried to explain that nobody would likely be drinking the wine. I'm sure they were expecting Jehovah's spirit to direct her to see the importance of the occasion but she wasn't having any of it. No alcohol on school property meant no alcohol whether it was being consumed or not. She gave them a few minutes to get it off the premises or she was calling the police. She was obviously being blinded by Satan so one by one the cars were directed away and told to head to the Hall. They had no choice. Panic...the sun was going down and there was nowhere else to go at such short notice. The Memorial was held Tribulation style, in the shell of the Kingdom Hall which was unsafe and illegal because we didn't have an occupancy permit, clearance from the fire dept. or proper lighting, not to mention there was building materials everywhere. This was a case where Cesar's law conflicted with a direct command from Jesus to observe the Memorial without fail. We felt extra virtuous and martyrish that year as we passed around the emblems and didn't partake of them.
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A reason to have the Memorial at other places than the Kingdom Hall
by zed is dead ini just thought of another reason that they try to combine congregations at larger facilities than kingdom halls.
we all know that the organization will lie when it suits them.
i have a suspicion that they fudge the attendance numbers, and make up the growth.
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My life of Debauchery since leaving WTBT$-They were right!!!
by Gojira_101 insince april 1st will be officially 6 months and i will be considered inactive, i thought this would be a good time for me to review my life since leaving....and i guess wtbt$ is right in that my life would return to a debauched state if i left them...so here is my review and i'm being totally serious here.. .
sex: yes i have sex with my husband.....i guess we have returned to the world because we take advantage of our marital dues.. related to sex: no longer just missionary.
drugs: yes i have been taking drugs......my allergies have been so bad the last few days i just couldn't handle it anymore and i gave in to the temptation to take over the counter allergies medicine.. rock and roll: yes......i am no longer listening to the kingdom melodies (i never really did anyways), and have gone to listening to the devils music.
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exwhyzee
They'll tell you if you're doing we'll after leaving the truth, it's because Satan has won you over and is deceiving you by making it seem as if you are on the right course. If you are doing poorly, it's because you've lost Jehovah's blessing and Satan has you in his power. They've got it set up so no matter what happens...leaving is the worst thing you can possibly do.
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It gets better. Part II of "Apostates are blown out of the water"
by never a jw injust a recap.. i posted a thread yesterday about an exchange of e-mails with a well known and respected elder and c.o.
sibstitute in a spanish circuit somewhere in the u.s. the man is about 50, raised in the truth, belongs to a family where all men are at least elders.
he is proud to have forsaken his dream of becoming a doctor to serve jehovah.
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exwhyzee
I realize now that one of the sources of our disagreements is that you are in pursuit truth, whereas I feel sure that I have found it.
Once we are thoroughly convinced we have arrived at the truth, further searching would not only be fruitless, but and we may even be led, due
to the enthusiasm of discovery, to dislodging the truth we have correctly acquired.
2 Cor 13:5
Examine yourselves to see if your faith is genuine. Test yourselves. Surely you know that Jesus Christ is among you; if not, you have failed the test of genuine faith.
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A Woman Jumps Into HE Pool While Jehovah's Witnesses were baptizing new converts
by Scott77 inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4bq0akfvxo what do you think?
could this have been a mental health issue?
may be she was excited?
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exwhyzee
She was at the back of the line-and the end is so close...
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Stop Supporting Satan!!!
by The Searcher insunday's study article makes a very damning statement!!!
paragraph 15 ; .........resting our hope on our savings, investments, or ability to earn money in this system amounts to resting our hope on .......... satan.
(watchtower january 15th 2013).
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exwhyzee
"So why doesnt the WTS sell everything and buy tv ads to spread the message and save everyone if Armageddon is tomorrow.?"
With a few well placed Ads, TV specials or Satellite Broadcasts, instead of plodding from door to door, the good news would be preached throughout the inhabited earth in a short time and then the end WOULD finally come. But that's not what printing companies do.
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Do You Believe In ANYTHING That The Witnesses Taught At This Point In Your Life?
by minimus infor example, they pride themselves in what they don't believe such as immortal souls, the trinity, hellfire, etc.. some exjws still believe it is the "truth" and support the basics.. .
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I still believe that it's ok with God for blood to be removed from someone else's body, spun down and separated into fractions and used for medical purposes so long as A:) a non-JW donates the blood B:) a non-JW separates the components and administers them.
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Is a slow fade being selfish when you have kids?
by dissonance_resolved inso i got some great advice to take things very slowly with the husband and kids in order to be able to fade and still maintain contact with my parents and siblings.
but today i got a call from my son's teacher that he was having a meltdown because he was worried about all his friends and teachers being destroyed at armageddon.... first i felt like such a schmuck for ever having allowed that thought to enter my son's head, then i thought, is it psychological torture for me not to immediately correct the situation?
i had a long talk with him about how god is perfectly just and full of love and he didn't have to worry about that at all, but it still seemed lukewarm.
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As a kid I had terrible Armegeddon nightmares about my non JW Dad being killed by God for not being a Witness or myself having to sacrifice my little sisters to the bad guys instead of giving into their torture to save them or myself. Looking back I realize that in between meetings my anxiety calmed somewhat only to be refueled again at the next one. As a middle aged adult the resulting lifelong difficulty I suffered with anxiety became almost unbearable at the end of my JW career. Meetings and any kind of talk about the last days would trigger heart palpitations and stomach flip flops which could only be alleviated by stealing out to my car where I began stashing a small container of beer or wine to quell the symptoms. This was a drastic move for me as a virtual non drinker, and a clue that something had to be done. Upon my subsequent self directed exit from the Org. My anxiety disappeared overnight and has not returned in almost 5 years. It has been such a relief and well worth the loss of every friend I ever knew.
If you can convince your family that for the sake of your son you need to take a little break from anything having to do with death and destruction or talk of the end of the world until he comes to grips with the obvious trauma he has suffered from exposure to all this dooms day talk, it might be the queue you need to make a long term exit. It is completely understandable how a ny kid who is truly listening at the meetings could be frightened by what he is hearing over and over from the adults in his little world.
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JW bumper stickers
by innerpeace inso my husband (who was never a jw) saw a christian bumper sticker today and asked me if the witnesses have any.
i said no (not that i know of anyway) so here are a few he came up with.. 'honk if you're a zombie'.
'my other car is noah's ark'.
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I'm a Regular Pioneer and my other car is a Covered Wagon.
I you.....conditionally !
Outta' my way, I'm late for the Special Assembly !
Don't blame me....I don't even vote !
Donate Blood....I may need your fractions !
Jesus Loves you but I think your doomed !
If you're not an apostate....you're not paying more than the usual attention.
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Snarky Question
by earthfire inso i have a question that's been bothering me for years.
i know this is extreme but i think you'll see where i'm going with this.
so ex-jw's are evil we're on "satan's side" as my dad told me and we aren't worth a hello.
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exwhyzee
This shunning business has very little to do with them being loyal to God or being concerned about upholding his principals.. It has more to do with you you having dared to offend their own sensibilities and them having the opportunity to exercise over you what little bit of personal power they have left.
These folks will turn their backs on a lifelong friend,even a youngster who has transgressed then turn around and welcome with open arms into the congregation, someone who they know little or nothing about and have no idea what evil they may have been up to.
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2014 Event
by enigma1863 ini know its a year away but i wanted to inquire about the hundred year anniversary of 1914. it would be amazing to have a world wide event reguarding all exjws.
i am nowhere near capable of putting this together but i'd like to propose the largest assembly of exjws ever on october 1st 2014. can it be done?
am i the first to bring this up?
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