Maybe Fred Franz was one of those millions then living who would never die...
Or maybe his nephew Ray was resurrected to heaven and is trying to undo all the nonsense Uncle Freddy started while he was here.
exwhyzee
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So, The Entire Governing Body Could Go Apostate?
by metatron ini made an effort to plow thru the latest bullsh*t from the wts in regard to the faithful slave, etc.
i must admit that, their latest set of interpretations make more sense than formerly.
they seem to have done away with 4-6 different 'comings' of jesus and they pretty much stuck everything in the future, so they are off the hook in the present.
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Birthdays and hunting
by exwhyzee insupposedly the reason jw's claim that celebrating birthdays is displeasing to god is because the bible mentions a pagan birthday celebation where john the baptist was beheaded.
if that's reason enough to ban birthday celebrations forever, then i'm suprised they didn't ban hunting since pagan nimrod was named in the bible as a hunter in opposition to jehovah who hunted for sport.
most hunters i know enjoy the meat they bring home of course, but mostly they hunt because they simply love to do it.
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exwhyzee
Actually, I knew a lot of JWs who thought it was wrong to hunt. But we are talking about city people.
Thankfully the were able to decide this for themselves rather than have a direct ban on hunting, from the society like they did with birthdays.
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Birthdays and hunting
by exwhyzee insupposedly the reason jw's claim that celebrating birthdays is displeasing to god is because the bible mentions a pagan birthday celebation where john the baptist was beheaded.
if that's reason enough to ban birthday celebrations forever, then i'm suprised they didn't ban hunting since pagan nimrod was named in the bible as a hunter in opposition to jehovah who hunted for sport.
most hunters i know enjoy the meat they bring home of course, but mostly they hunt because they simply love to do it.
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exwhyzee
Supposedly the reason JW's claim that celebrating birthdays is displeasing to God is because the Bible mentions a pagan birthday celebation where John the Baptist was beheaded. If that's reason enough to ban birthday celebrations forever, then I'm suprised they didn't ban hunting since Pagan Nimrod was named in the Bible as a hunter in opposition to Jehovah who hunted for sport. Most hunters I know enjoy the meat they bring home of course, but mostly they hunt because they simply love to do it. It would be less time consuming and expensive (equipment, guns, hunting license etc,) for them in most cases to simply buy the meat they need or raise a few chickens etc. But hunting is a tradition and a way of life for some. Can you imagine what would have happened if the society,based on the same biblical logic as banning Birthdays, way back in the day, would have banned hunting and told JW's they could only eat meat they had purchased or had been raised for consumption? Even though it's the same skewed logic, they'd never have dared to mess with hunters. Likely many of the early fouders of the religion were hunters themselves. This is not an argument for or against hunting rather another way to show why some of the beliefs that JW's are proud to say sets them apart from mainstream Christianity, are illogcical.
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What on earth is going on with this woman's hair?
by JeffT inthis ad popped up a minute ago.
i have to wonder if going out in public on a bad hair days is a crime in her town.
maybe it should be.
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exwhyzee
Thats where she stashes all the stuff she shoplifts.
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Circuit Overseer's Talk: " We need 5 meetings a week and weekly mags"
by truthseeker inat the circuit overseer's talk last week he made the comment that some "of the friends" are finding it difficult to move ahead with jehovah's organization (tm).
the co said that a few had asked, "is it necessary to have 5 meetings a week, and a magazine every other week?".
"couldn't we do without one meeting a week, and have monthly editions of the watchtower?
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exwhyzee
Yes it is a funny thread "Wha Happened". Aren't they always mentioning that scripture in Hebrews 10:25 that says " Do not forsake the gathering of your selves together but do it all the more so as you behold the day drawing near" Now that we're really close to the end, instead of adding another opportunity to gather together, they drop the bookstudy. That meeting at one time, was considered the most important of them all. During the Trubulation we were going to meet at our bookstudy groups "underground" style. They even changed the name of it to "rendezvous" because we were going to have to be really secretive about it.
Such a joke....all those people I used to know, fell for this stuff hook line and sinker.
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Charles Russell's family tree: a real tree
by glenster inone of these is an old world monkey that almost looks human.
the other is a lesula.
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2012/09/13/47435.jpg.
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exwhyzee
They looked up Russell's family tree and found that most of his relatives were still living in it.
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Out and Gay but fed up of 'fading' - advice please.
by frogonmytoe insomeone once quoted gandhi to me, but i don't actually think it was gandhi, saying that man can only be happy when what he says, what he believes and what he does are all in harmony.. how many of us led lives that meant all three of those were at loggerheads whilst jws?.
i came out as gay when still a witness, to my family first and then my friends.
they were all accepting of me, to varying degrees, but accepting.. i even asked the elders for help.
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exwhyzee
I imagine by not telling your family about your current arrangement, even though things have gone well for you, you might have a sort of incomplete feeling about your life. It would be sort of like going on a great vacation and then not being able to tell anyone about it or show them the photos. Not only that, you'd always have the feeling that any day someone from your family might arrive up at the doorstep or that somehow the whole matter had been discovered and you'd then be forced to deal with the topic on their time table.
I like the idea of breaking it to them gently over a period of time. Little indications that you've met someone without rubbing their noses in it. They must realize on some level that you have not been living like a Monk. Either way, all of us who have left the organization have had to make a similar choice. Do we just play along with the game and smolder inside or do we get it over with and suffer the consequences what ever they may be. This is the hard reality for those of us who one way or another, wound up being part of a religious cult.
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JW family made contact....
by LouBelle in.....after 8 years of us being disfellowshipped.
the made contact through my aunt who is still 'in' - as in she has faded but is not disfellowshipped and will pop to a meeting now and again - she does this for my grans' sake.. the contact was from my aunt and uncle (he's an elder) these were the 2 witnesses used against me in my judicial case.
they contacted my aunt and said to forward the message onto us.
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exwhyzee
My wife has two of 6 siblings who left the Org. as soon as they turned 18 and have been shunned for the last 30 years.(one was baptized at 16 the other unbaptized) Neither was ever again invited to family gatherings,baby showers, barbeques, weddings, graduations etc. Their children were not included in anything even though they all live a short 10 drive away. When full time Pioneer Grandma was having financial difficulties because her social security just wansn't enough, guess who the other family members called? Yep...the shunned siblings were asked to contribute a monthly sum along with the other siblings....and they did it.
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Seeing the Strange in the JW Familiar
by laverite inthere are times when we manage to step outside of our own identities, perspectives and world view, and look at ourselves, our situations or certain lived experiences almost as an outsider.
sociologists call it seeing the strange in the familiar.
an anthropologist by the name of miner wrote a fascinating piece involving this very concept (see http://www.ohio.edu/people/thompsoc/body.html).
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exwhyzee
When you pull your head out and have a look around, we may have been different than the WT 's version of what a "worldly" person is but we were really no different than any other religious group...but we were taught to feel superior anyway.
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Am I the ONLY one who goes through this??!!
by JWOP inokay, i gotta rant.. .
we have a reel mower.
and a weed whacker for times when it's rained too long and the grass grows beyond reel mower's capacity.
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exwhyzee
I like doing yard work....it's very satisfiying to see everything all trimmed and tidy. Here in puddletown USA. if you wait for the rain to stop, this time of year, you'll never get anything done. I mow my lawn with a power mower rain or shine. I adjust the wheels up 4 X 4 style and go for it. Even if you only take the top 1/4 inch off, it looks neat. You can lower the wheels a little and hit it a second time if you like the grass shorter.
Maybe your gang figures since you choose to use a reel mower because you like the work out it gives you, but you can't use it when it's raining, you shouldn't expect them to weed whack the entire yard when it's wet. (seems like it would end up looking kinda ragged that way)