The constant harping on JW's are exposed to that details how bad things are compared to how good things could be or will be some day, causes (IMO) a condition called Weltschmerz . Weltschmertz is the depression that arises from comparing the world as it is, to a hypothetical idealized world that one envisions in thier own mind. The steady diet of talks, literature and meetings where the flaws in ones current existence are highlighted and then compared to an existence of idealized perfection that is never attained or is repeatedly postponed, is bound to foster an atmosphere of discontent and rather than one of gratitude and appreciation of what one really has. If you want to see this on a large scale, spend a little time at Bethel and notice the altered state the residents there are in, especially the long time ones. It's certainly not what you'd expect to see at the world headquarers of God's happy people.
exwhyzee
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Do you detect an underlying sadness ?
by Phizzy inwhenever i talk to jw's, and even in some of the jw official videos, i detect a definite vibe of sadness coming off these people.. i am very sensitive to "atmospheres" and to peoples emotional state, you wouldn't think so, because more often than not i do not react to what i detect, i just let people get on with it.. but i do get this feeling that they are sad, probably because very, very, very deep down they realise that it is all false, maybe ?.
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Check this out- JW Car Lot
by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat inhttp://www.circuitvehicles.com/home/.
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exwhyzee
(sung to Kingdom Melody 122 Myriads of Brothers) Myriads and Myriads of autos, All buffed and shining bright, Each one was used for spreading, something we call, New Light. Yes Myriads of Buick LeSabres, all of them have four doors. This model we have chosen cause they cut like a two edged sword. Once paid for by your donations we sell them back to you, that way we double the money, and buy ones that are brand new. Your mileage it may vary, but we never cared at all. Our gas is paid by others down at the Kingdom Hall. Myriads and Myriads of autos, hold on to the steering wheel tight. Sometimes the demons cause them, to swerve to the left or right. Never drive them after sundown, if you're merely of the Great Crowd. We removed the all the headlights, to see things yourself aint allowed. And if you should choose a lemon here's what you must do, Stand in God's earthly courtyard, don't call us,we'll call you.
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1914 not Christ's Return anymore?
by pacloc inlooking at the public dec 2013 watchtower under bible questions answered it looks like they are saying that the invisible return of christ is completely in the future.
i thought that they always said it started in 1914?
am i reading this wrong?.
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exwhyzee
It used to be taught that Jesus hurled Satan out of heaven in 1914 which caused the world war and woe to the earth that would get worse and worse until the tribulation started. This was all supposed to happen before the 1914 generation passed away. We all know how that went but does this mean they think Satan is still in heaven and the the Tribulation he will cause on the earth is in the future and the wars etc are just a coincidence? (not that I beleive any of it anyway...fool me twice, shame on me). Isn't all this new a game changer for current JW's ? Sure would be for me but then again, if things are relatively OK for you, one tends to coast along sort of ignoring the convoluted teachings hoping you'll figure it out, in time. It's when you have a personal experience that causes a conflict that you just can't ignore, the house of cards comes tumbling down.
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What Was The Effect of You Knowing Hypocritical JW's?
by LoisLane looking for Superman in(1) did it cause you to leave sooner than you might have, otherwise.. (2) it didn't bother you enough to do anything about it.
hey, we are all imperfect.. (3) did you want to prove you were better than they, and nothing they could do or say, was going to stumble you.. (4) they stumbled me, probably as much i stumbled them.
we all know it's an old boy's club and we are not going to tell on each other.. loislane.
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exwhyzee
It was death by a thousand cuts, rather than one single thing, but I'd say #1 comes closest to how it was for us.
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COBE's Mom Dies And "Eulogy" Was All About Praising Her And It Went For Over An Hour!
by minimus ini heard it was unlike anything ever heard in a local congregation.
they even got a bethelite to come sing the woman's praises..
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exwhyzee
About two years ago, a well known Brother from our area an a few other JW's were killed when the commuter plane they were traveling in while serving where the need is greater, slammed into a mountain. At the memorial they stressed how much more important the day of his death is rather than the day of his birth since what you are when you die is what counts with Jehovah. They almost made it sound like it was a good thing that he died this way. They speculated that it was very likely that at the moment of impact, these JW's were talking about spiritual matters or laughing over some funny experience they had in the door to door work. I looked over at the widow and kids and could tell they weren't buying it and like the rest of us, would rather not have been picturing the moment of impact at all. Everyone knew they must have grazed the tree tops for a few moments and were well aware that they were in big trouble. Trying to put a JW spiritual spin on the whole thing backfired. The rest was an infomercial on the benefits of being a Witness.
When my Mother Died at 57, we weren't allowed to put her picture up front with the flowers....just wouldn't do to draw too much attention to the individual.
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THE DIVORCE OF THE CENTURY!
by JW GoneBad inso there is a rumor going around about 1914 and its possible demise!.
i cant help but think of the many and i say many divorces (not to make light of the matter) that jw families have had to deal with among their ranks over the years.. however, knowing how long the wtbts and 1914 have been together and the thought of mother (wtbts) doing away with her man (1914) after nearly 100 years of marriage is truly heart breaking for some.
many old-timers probably still think of the old days when they were like any other happy couple; inseparable, always holding hands, romantic and the like.
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exwhyzee
It seemed at first, that theirs was a match made in heaven but once again our fickle Mother, the WTBTS, finds herself back in the "dating" scene.
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Sleepy Hollow
by Flg8ter inwho else is watching the new show "sleepy hollow"?
the series premiere is on right now.
in the first few minutes of the show.......it show a road leading into the small town.
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exwhyzee
When I was in Bethel there was a place in the factory that was referred to as "Sleepy Hollow" where all the ancient Bethelite men that could still fog up a mirror, were given little jobs to do like fold things and stuff things in envelopes.
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Similar Religions to Jehovah's Witnesses
by God_Delusion inhi guys,.
i am sort of having a breakthrough with my mother-in-law.
she's not really going to the meetings any longer but still believes the jehovah's witnesses are the "true religion".. in our last conversation, she said the following:.
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exwhyzee
Read about the Plymouth Bretheren. My Grandfather was disfellowshipped from them for marrying my (non P.B.) Grandmother and was shunned for the rest of his life. There were no P.B women to marry so finally in his 40's he married out of the "lord" and had the book thrown at him. His family never saw any of his 6 children although they lived in the same village. His sister was disfellowshiped for going to see a movie while she was visiting the " Big City " she was apparently spotted by someone who knew her, coming out of a movie theater in the 1940's. My Grandfather took her in and helped her make it. JW's think they are so original....they're not.
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How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?
by tootired2care inat that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
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Aren't billions dying of decay, old age, sickness anyway?
Yes....only because God (supposedly) chose to curse Billions of humans rather than punish the two who were (supposedly) at fault.
If I maimed one of my Son's in some way so that his children would be born with painful defects, I'd be considered a sick-o. Even (supposedly) wicked human beings can see the wrong and injustice in that. Seems like a supreme being such as God would have been able to come up with a better plan than that. Everything that (supposedly) happened in the beginning was a mess from the get-go. Why were humans created to live forever but animals (supposedly) were ment to continually grow old, get sick and die and new ones born to replace them. What's the point in that? None of it makes sense to me and I'm taking a wait and see attitude regarding God, the Bible and religion from now on. None of it is proveable and I'm not about to go around acting as if I know what it's all about, ever again.
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Who came up with the phrase TTATT? When?
by dazed but not confused inwho came up with this term and when?
is there a specific member that the credit goes to or did it just develop over time?
was it used in the beginning of this site or is it taken from another site?.
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exwhyzee
I did, right after I cam up with ..."Get a Life" and "Bad Hair Day"
(maybe it was Ray Fanz ?)