Anyone who remembers the conventions where they served meals and where there was an actual orchestra and bold talks about the nearness of the end, realizes that something died when they started homogenizing and streamlining everything. Recorded music, cookie cutter Kingdom Halls, formulaic literature, canned talks and ambigious talk about the "Last Days" and when it may or may not come, has made it all very nice but not very good. It seems like most JW's glom onto all the man made rules but don't really know the doctrine behind their own beliefs.
exwhyzee
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The truth just ain't the same any more.
by Julia Orwell inthis has been the sentiment of a few i know who have been full jws for decades.
they say the love is not there like it used to be, and it's become less personal.. anyone heard similar comments from oldies?.
we know the 'truth' ain't the truth in the first place, but i have a feeling there may be a lot of older ones hanging on just because it's all they've ever known, and it the alternative, that there is no paradise around the corner like they've always been taught us unthinkable..
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Interesting conversation
by Freeof1914 inas some of you know several weeks ago i was disfellowshipped for several reasons, but primarily my thoughts on the organization.
last night i had a very interesting conversations with my wife after she came back from the meeting and several things jumped out at me that made see even more clearly how sick this religion is.
first of all, several months ago we attended a wedding of a friend.
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exwhyzee
You know what? You disfellowshipped people think that anyone still cares about you? You are old news the week after you are announced no one even cares or thinks about you it's like whatever!
I might have said;
" I realized a long time ago that no one really cared about me not in any real or lasting sense. The "Brotherly Love" they talk so much about is totally conditional. They go from door to door looking for new recruits mostly motivated out of wanting to save their own hydes from destruction by God at Armageddon rather than out of any true concern or love for thier fellow man. This is why it is so easy for them to cast people like me aside and why, as you say, we become "old news" a week later.
I also would have asked her if she was among those who no longer cared about me ?
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Men...what do you look for in a woman?
by LouBelle inso we had the woman version.
let it rip guys - what type of woman makes you just want to get her know her better - the one that makes you take that risk and walk on over to start a conversation?.
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exwhyzee
She hasta' like animals and she hasta' be super nice to my lovely wife.
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What does your screen name/avatar mean and what does it stand for
by BU2B inand why did you choose it?
if you have a avatar, what is it and why did you pick it?.
ok ill start.
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exwhyzee
You guys all have such thoughtful and symbolic reasons for choosing your screen names.
XYZ stands for Xamine Your Zipper. You see....after learning the "Truth About The Truth" I felt very foolish for having been sooo clueless for sooo long...sorta' like the guy who gives a one hour Sunday Talk only to realize later that his Fly had been open the whole time. (sniff...poor me )
Pffft...No not really...I only chose the name because I had recently seen a Disneyland license plate holder on a car that spelled the name Mickey Mouse, phonetically like this. Em Eye Cee Kay Ee Why Em Oh You Es Ee
I chose ExWhyZee, because Its easy as 1 2 3 , as simple as do re mi, A B C 1 2 3
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Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.
by Qcmbr inever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.
to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.
you can only paint sh*t so many ways.
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exwhyzee
Encouraging their members go to College was the Mormons first mistake. JW's knew better than to let the the flock get smart enough to see beyond their fear tactics and flimsy doctrines that over and over again fell flat with time.
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After 4 years..JWs knock on my door.
by Tylinbrando init was last weekend.
i was visited by 2 older jws that appeared to be elders.
first time in 4 years any of them have come to my door.
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exwhyzee
I think your response was appropriate, but can you imagine how blown away they must have been? JW's expect objections and are rehearsed at overcoming them, but nothing could have prepared them for this. It must have pulled the rug out from under thier whole day.
The tearful response shows me that once again, it's not the individual Witness I have a problem with. What's appalling to me, is the lack of information the typical JW (myself included) is aware of regarding the background of the organization they center their lives around and how little they know about those who are leading it.
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What to say if JW tells you the big A is coming very soon, Jehovah's day will come here like a thief? etc..
by Iamallcool ini like terry's topic about noah's day not being armageddon enough.
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exwhyzee
Jehovah's day will come like a theif in the night to steal me away to safety.
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Mouthy Grace is not well. Please send love.
by return of parakeet inin another thread, mouthy said she was "not well" and mentioned "kicking the bucket.
i believe she needs some encouragement and well wishes.. mouthy, you don't need to respond to this thread if you don't feel up to it.
just consider it an exceptionally long get-well card..
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exwhyzee
Wow... those Bethelites sure can sing !
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What to say if JW tells you the big A is coming very soon, Jehovah's day will come here like a thief? etc..
by Iamallcool ini like terry's topic about noah's day not being armageddon enough.
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exwhyzee
Most JWs compartmentalize armageddon. It's this fantasy of theirs that they don't think about in real world terms; just a vague notion that this big end is coming, and the thought stops there. Because to continue the thought is really disturbing.
This is so true...it's a survival mechanism. On some level, they don't really beleive that it's true...but they think they should beleive that it's true. How could all these JW's continue bringing children into the world if the truly beleived such an event was literal much less going to happen any day ?
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What to say if JW tells you the big A is coming very soon, Jehovah's day will come here like a thief? etc..
by Iamallcool ini like terry's topic about noah's day not being armageddon enough.
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exwhyzee
If Armageddon is a real event and God is planning a paradise for mankind where imperfect people like me will grow to perfecton and truly wicked people such as Hitler and Ted Bundy won't be allowed in, I don't see any reason I shouldn't be a part of it too.
If you think there is some reason I shouldn't be there too, you need to stop judging me and you need to be certiain the information you are spreading about God and his plans is accurate and true and won't be changed and revised as it has been in the past. You need to know the past history of the Organization you belong to and see if their prophesies have held up over time. Otherwise your warnings to the public about an impending doom could become like the "boy who cried wolf" and no one will listen to them and in fact may turn away from God because of your misleading information.
Let he that is standing beware he doesn't fall.