Tonight??....
After just being on the bad side of a $27 MILLION DOLLAR court ruling???
"Awe $h1t....Morning Worship is NOT going to be fun tomorrow...."
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Watchtower found guilty ruled to pay 7 million to 1 victim? wow
by yourmomma inis this recent?
http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.
i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .
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yknot:
"Instead of DOs bullying victims.....now they will bully known (possible suspected) pedos into submitting letters of disassociation before officially cleaning house..... that way they can claim 'holy spirit' removed the wicked and not Caesar"
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I think you're on to something there. The WTS opening the door to this approach with the Bulgarian blood issue. The WTS can stand there and say "What, WE didn't punish anyone for taking blood. When they took blood they were DISASSOCIATING THEMSELVES."
If they can take that stance when people take blood, what's stopping the WTS from taking that stance with every disfellowshipping offense? Then they can stand there and say "Nooo lite! WE don't kick ANYONE out of the congregation, people kick THEMSELVES out, demonstrating by their actions that they no longer consider themselves as one of Jehovah's Witnesses!"
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What was the weirdest thing ever said to you as a JW?
by falseprophet ini was about 8-10 years old and twice i had people tell me that i should not pioneer but to go to bethel because i "was governing body material".. one was a co and another a do.. i didn't even believe in god, never have so that makes it weird!.
what wierd things were told?.
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Typically the most bizarre conversations I hear tend to relate to discussions of the New System TM (or is the New World TM now?).
People would make predictions that:
- We’d go back to only riding horses to get around
- We'd all start magically speaking Hebrew
- We’d start colonizing other planets (that’s why Jehovah created them!). Although I’m not sure how you can get to Jupiter on a horse….
- We’d be naked
- My favorite is that we’d all each be entirely self-sufficient—making our own clothes, building our own houses, growing our own food, etc. I always have fun with those people.
“So would you have to cut down the trees to build your house?”
“Yes, of course!”
“How would you make the saw blade or axe? Would you have to mine the ore yourself?”
“Oh, no. Of course not.”
“Then where would you get them?”
“Well there would be people to make stuff like that.”
“And the glass for your windows?”
“That too.”
“And where will you get the fabric and dye for your clothes?”
"Jehovah will make sure there are people to do those types of things."
"Doesn't that sound like a caste system or slavery?"
(You get the idea. I usually finish by reminding them that IMPERFECT humans living in an agrarian society were able to figure out pretty quickly how to grow more food than they needed, which is what allowed others to go off and specialize in other talents, and that I would hope PERFECT humans could do a lot better.)
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Mexican Cartel apparently accepts magazines at their door.
by wha happened? ingo to the link in this news article about how the mexican cartel is working it's way into the us via small towns.
the last picture at the end of the article shows a picture of a weapon, hammer cocked, on top of a wt in spanish.
my wife recognized the magazine cover.. http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/09/us/mexican-cartels-small-town-usa/index.html?hpt=hp_c1.
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Haha...I had to laugh at that photo. When I opened up this thread I was 100% sure it would be the photo that's been making the J-Dub rounds on Facebook the last few days. Unfortunately I can't figure out how to post it (maybe someone else can).
Essentially it's a photo of a typical J-dub woman (skirt below the knee, button up shirt) standing with a MAYBE 3 1/2 year old little boy in dress pants, dress shirt and a vest (keep in mind there are palm trees everwhere, so it appears to be a tropical climate). The little boy has his Bible open, and he's standing at a large rusting iron gate. On the other side of the gate is a soldier dressed in full combat gear with his assult rifle carefully pointed at the ground away from the boy. He appears to be "listening intently" to this little boy's presentation.
Of course the soldier might also be thinking "why the heck are there THREE adults standing there (two in the shot and clearly one holding the camera) and they're making this poor little kid talk to me, this big scary soldier with a freakin' assult rifle in my hands???? And they're taking pictures of this?!"
I REALLY hope someone that has seen this pic can post it. That way we can have "proof" of where the WT in the CNN article came from!
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The Devil Made Me do it!
by criticalwitness injust my thoughts on the orgs consistent beating of the proverbial drum of satan the devil - first off i have never once met a person who has had such an encounter with devil or any of his demon cohorts and stories told me by word of mouth the person who said saw such things always had some mental issue.
if this devil where in fact real to reveal himself to anyone would prove there is a god for if there is evil there is good and whatever temp suffering this devil could conjure up would be worth enduring because one would know beyond a shadow of a doubt there is a god!
thats logical.
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I recently had a discussion on the "devil [or demons] made me do it" recently with a family member. I asked...
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"HOW did the demons influence her to do wrong?"
"Well she was tempted by that man."
"Okay, so was the man being directed by the demons?"
"Yes."
"So you're saying he was possessed?"
"Well no, but the demons can make people do things."
"Okay, how? What's the actual action the demon takes to force a person to do something? If they can't read our minds, how can they influence our thoughts?"
"Well Satan and the demons pollute our minds with things that we see, like through movies."
"Oh, so you're saying that if a movie has unclean elements, it means that it's been made by someone possessed by a demon?"
"No, of course not!"
"I guess I must be stupid for not getting this. If we agree that Satan and the demons cannot read our minds, and therefore can't control our thoughts, then any demonic influence must makes it's way into humankind through demon possession, right? I mean, at SOME POINT there has to be a demon/human interaction to make the 'transfer' of demonic influence, right?"
"Right."
"So then all those movie directors and advertising executives are possessed?!"
"No, of course not."
"Well then, HOW do Satan and the demons make people do things?"
"Nevermind, you clearly don't get it."
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Clearly I don't.
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Nephew Readying for Harvard
by snowbird insince he disregarded the elders' "encouragement" to turn down the fellowship offer from harvard, he's being deleted as a ministerial servant.. he leaves in august.. i'm so happy for and proud of him!.
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Nephew Readying for Harvard
by snowbird insince he disregarded the elders' "encouragement" to turn down the fellowship offer from harvard, he's being deleted as a ministerial servant.. he leaves in august.. i'm so happy for and proud of him!.
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snowbird, you have a PM.
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After twenty four years of loyal service, I am about to commit treason...
by CaptainSchmideo inof a sort.. i have been with the same company for 24 years, and the last 5 have not been very enjoyable for me.
i like the owner of the company, but the management team is terrible, and the dept.
i work in (tech service) is demoralized.
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I faced a similar situation myself once. While interviewing for another position, I was venting my guilt about leaving to a mentor within the company. His response was, "Never feel bad about leaving for a better opportunity. Who do you owe more responsibility to, your family and yourself or this company? R_O, this is a JOB, not your life. If we didn't pay you each week, you wouldn't show up here. You're only here because we pay you. If another company can pay you more, you'd be stupid not take it. The only thing you owe us is your hard work while you're here-- that's it."
He also reminded me that EVERYONE is replaceable. We may think of ourselves as exceptions to that rule, but in reality EVERYONE is replaceable.
The only other advice I'd give, is that if you do interview and get an offer...but still really love your current job/boss that much, go to your boss and give him the opportunity to counter-offer. Who knows, he might surprise you!
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Dumbest crazy YEARBOOK experience ever...talking demonic snake silenced by Witness!!
by Witness 007 ini loved reading the yearbook each year as soon as it came out....lots of encouraging experiences and they were all true of course, like this one from africa..... yearbook 1967 p.105 "a large crowd was following a man who had a talking serpent {like the muppets}...the serpent gave greetings and spoke in foreign tongues {college educated maybe}....a brother passing by went into the house, as soon as he did the serpent stopped talking.
the man cried out "a magican has entered the room.
" the brother asked the man "is that a serpent or a demon that has spoken to you?...not one serpent has ever spoken except the one in the garden of eden"...seeing that the serpent remained silent the man left the house....he was anxious later to get some literature....".
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Of course, this is coming from the same Org that spent last Spring amping up millions of people around the world with the DC invite.
"'New Light'! Come, find out what prophetic meaning the toes on the statue mean!!"
"Okay I'm here, what's the big surprise?"
"The toes mean NOTHING! No significance at all! Yay 'New Light!'"
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Dumbest crazy YEARBOOK experience ever...talking demonic snake silenced by Witness!!
by Witness 007 ini loved reading the yearbook each year as soon as it came out....lots of encouraging experiences and they were all true of course, like this one from africa..... yearbook 1967 p.105 "a large crowd was following a man who had a talking serpent {like the muppets}...the serpent gave greetings and spoke in foreign tongues {college educated maybe}....a brother passing by went into the house, as soon as he did the serpent stopped talking.
the man cried out "a magican has entered the room.
" the brother asked the man "is that a serpent or a demon that has spoken to you?...not one serpent has ever spoken except the one in the garden of eden"...seeing that the serpent remained silent the man left the house....he was anxious later to get some literature....".
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Wait, wait...without being able to read the experience in context, if I'm understanding it correctly:
· man (supposedly) has a talking snake
· JW goes to his house to see it (which is odd to me anyway. Isn't that sort of like a J-dub intentionally going to check out a "haunted house" or palm reader, just to see what would happen???)
· JW walks in and the snake.....doesn't talk. (Surprise!!)
So why is that worthy of a Yearbook experience? Maybe the guy just realized his ventriloquist act wasn't going to work on this guy...
R_O