Posts by MrFreeze

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Increased LightMindless Justification For Removing Errors

by Dogpatch in

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increased lightmindless justification for removing errors.

by barbara anderson.

also in her blog at: http://www.freeminds.org/blogs/musings-of-a-watchtower-insider/increased-light%e2%80%94mindless-justification-for-removing-errors.html.

MrFreeze

Dogpatch, I love the way you break things down. Your reads are rarely light but they are totally worth it. Interesting look into a couple changes.

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News Paper Article regarding JW's Neighbor... Too funny

by Peaches1978 in

http://tinypic.com/r/21azhgw/7.

sorry i posted this in the wrong section under technical support.

i'm not to great at posting up images i figured to repost it here where it belongs.

My last meeting at the Kingdom Hall. Here's how it went.....

by jambon1 in

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nothing spectacular but you may relate to some of my emotions.. it was nearly 5 years ago now.

i had almost left twice before but changed my mind at the last minute.

this time i knew it was for real.

I can completely relate to everything you are saying here. Free free free is right! The thought that "this is my last meeting" provides a feeling of great relief. I also understand the difficulty in having to tell your loved ones you aren't going anymore and then having to deal with the hurtful things they say as a last ditch effort to get you to change your mind. Congrats to you my friend! Here's to many more football games without the pressure on your shoulders!

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As Far as JW's and Thanksgiving go...

by OnTheWayOut in

it's one of the most confusing holidays to jw's.

it doesn't specify who to give thanks to, it's a u.s. holiday that is semi-patriotic and semi-religious but not necessarily either one.. i suppose jw's should go out of their way to avoid giving thanks this thursday so jehovah doesn't get pissed at them for being so slightly normal worldly and maybe accidentally smite them if armageddon starts this thursday..

MrFreeze

Spending time with family and being thankful for what you have? That's heresy my friends!

I'm proud (or ashamed, depending upon how you look at it) to say that I will be celebrating my first Thanksgiving this Thursday!

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Mark Your Calendars: Memorial 2012!

by yknot in

okay for starters let me announce that i don't officially receive my dec km until dec 6th cuz it ain't needed until dec 13!.

but i was running ahead some (korah and i are thick as thieves!

) and noticed in the 'announcements' the 'memorial' falls on thursday april 5th!.

MrFreeze

It doesn't matter because Armageddon will be here by then because it's right around the corner.

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Here's what I have so far...

by MrFreeze in

okay so when i was talking with the brothers, somehow they got me to agree to come up with a list of jw teachings i don't agree with.

for some reason the po gave the number as "12".

don't ask me why he came to that conclusion.

MrFreeze

Oh yes AG, I'm aware of what's coming. I am not scared of being disfellowshipped. I already expressed my opinions of the doubts I had. It would only be a matter of time anyway. Why not speed up the process, all while compiling a list for future reference for those on here as well.

With that in mind, here's a couple more. Maybe somebody could help refine my last sentence for number 8 so that it makes a little more sense:

7) Quotes about 1975:

"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the "last days" in 1914, Jesus foretold: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur."-Matt. 24:34. Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!" Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15

"The fact that fifty-four years of the period called the "last days" have already gone by is highly significant. It means that only a few years, at most, remain before the corrupt system of things dominating the earth is destroyed by God." Awake! 1968 October 8 p.13

In the Awake of 1971 October 8 a timeline was presented with the "Millennial reign of Jesus Christ" starting on the six thousandth year with the caption "As we near the end of 6,000 years of human history in the mid-1970's there is the thrilling hope of a grand relief."

8) Will those in Sodom and Gomorrah be resurrected?

At first it's yes:

"Thus our Lord teaches that the Sodomites did not have a full opportunity; and he guarantees them such opportunity." Studies in the Scriptures, Series I p.110 (see also w.1879 July p.8)

Then it's no:

"He was pin-pointing the utter impossibility of ransom for unbelievers or those willfully wicked, because Sodom and Gomorrah were irrevocably condemned and destroyed, beyond any possible recovery." Watchtower 1954 February 1 p.85

Then it's yes again:

"As in the case of Tyre and Sidon, Jesus showed that Sodom, bad as it was, had not got to the state of being unable to repent ... So the spiritual recovery of the dead people of Sodom is not hopeless" Watchtower 1965 March 1 p.139

"It will be more endurable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah on Judgment Day than for that city." Sodom and Gomorrah were everlastingly destroyed as cities, but this would not preclude a resurrection for people of those cities." Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 2 p.985

Then finally they won't be resurrected:

"Consequently, in addition to what Jude 7 says, the Bible uses Sodom/Gomorrah and the Flood as patterns for the destructive end of the present wicked system. It is apparent, then, that those whom God executed in those past judgments experienced irreversible destruction." Watchtower 1988 June 1 p.31 Questions From Readers

Why the changes back and forth? If they are only making adjustments because Jehovah is revealing it to them, why do they revert back to being resurrected and then back again repeatedly?

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"What will be examined in the following article?" How many of you adults shamelessly raised your hand for these questions?

by miseryloveselders in

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every wt magazine has at least one article that asks this question at the end of one of the study articles.

sometimes these questions are in the books such as this week's book study.

they spiced it up a little bit for this book study though.

MrFreeze

I'm being 100% honest. I can't remember the last time I had done that. At that point I was usually too busy closing my book or putting my watchtower away.

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1975, generation change and New Light - the WTBTS position

by Nickolas in

the words below are taken from the latest version of the watchtower bible and tract society's history book.

it is a response i have received from a jehovah's witness to my questions about how the watchtower bible and tract society represented the year 1975 and recent changes in generation teaching.

beyond saying there are some interesting insights into the society's position on new light, i will withhold comment until i get some feedback from the board.. the bible itself says: do not interpretations belong to god?