gorby is not feeling well at the moment.
wife and kids went to the kh last week.
gorby stayed at home watching live soccer game psv - milan.
One of the most crippling feelings in the world to feel is guilt.
One of the first things the JW religion teaches is to instill lots of guilt. This is something that haunts me. Constantly. I'll be sitting in my cubicle at work, doing something mind numbing and all the sudden it hits. A wave of guilt. I don't even know what I'm feeling guilty about. But that feeling looms. I must be doing something wrong.
what was your wake-up call(s) before you left the jw s organization?
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I always had little doubts in my mind about certain things. One of the things that really opened my eyes was the scripture where it usess the pluralized "nails" to indicate Jesus had more than one nail in his hands. I asked a "knowledgable" sister about it and she had no clue. just said to look at the WT Library and see what it says. The WT pretty much says "It doesn't matter what Jesus was killed on, just that he died." Okay, so why do they make a big deal about the cross then? Then I started digging further and further into doubts I had and welp... here I am... an evil apostate atheist.
this subject is coming up this month in the tms.
i just thought i would start a post for newbies or lurkers.
if you have any scans of the awake inside cover that would be awesome.
Remember it's not a lie if you believe it.
would you get a huge response if you ever went back to the hall?.
would nobody care?
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Yes but only if I came back the way they wanted me to come back.
he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.
fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.
with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.
Give me a break Cold Steel. Imagine if you were suffering from some horrible disease and a doctor who could help cure you refused saying "Don't worry about it. You'll be cured when you are dead." I'd say that is a pretty cruel thing.
Is this what we are supposed to have faith in?
I guess all those people who have never heard of Jesus through no fault of their own are just supposed to magically believe in him and have faith in him.
Supposedly, Jesus showed miraculous signs. God performed miraculous signs back in Bible times. Can you explain to me why we no longer see such miraculous signs? Sorry, but "The world is so beautiful and wonderfully created" and "Jesus will speak to you if you have faith and are willing to see" are NOT miraculous signs. Imagine the good that might be able to come out of the whole world if he just revealed himself in an OBVIOUS way. Not in a "Oh, you have to read the Bible with an open heart" way.
he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.
fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.
with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.
Maybe people lack faith in god because they have never heard him. If he really wanted people to worship him, he should make himself evident. Why wouldn't he? I mean when it is something that is as important as your everlasting wellbeing that is being decided by your belief in god, I think he's kind of a dick for hiding.
It would be so simple for himself to reveal himself to the whole world.
Cold Steel, those "prophets" vary so greatly in their teachings how could you say their revelations are coming from one source? That doesn't make any sense. Maybe god should speak up so everyone is on the same page.
i have bona for years but i am looking to try something else.
any recommendations?.
I can't wait to get out of this house and move into one with carpeting.
rob waugh yahoo!
news .religious people are less intelligent than non-believers, according to a new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades.. .
a team led by miron zuckerman of the university of rochester found a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity in 53 out of 63 studies.
Many top scientists do not consider themselves atheist. Although I'd say most do consider themselves agnostic.
to those who don't believe in this shyt:you'd better not post here .
ok...so you ever used it?what experiences do you have?were you able to summon a demon?what did he tell you?what did you see?i'm really curious and i wanna try it!.
Yes, I'm sure the Parker Bros have developed a device that allows us to talk to dead people. Makes sense.
Do yourself a favor and look up the ideomotor effect.
i typed in my name, password and the captcha, expecting to see my name come up in the top right corner and what i actually saw was someone else's name!
(the name was another member of this board).
i looked at it for a few seconds feeling a bit puzzled and not sure what to do about it and as i looked it automatically changed (whithout me doing anything) back to my own name.. has anyone else had this happen to them?
Thank your lucky stars you didn't have to be me.
