Stay tuned. The same thing happened to my parents in southern Colorado. I check TVguide.com and the listing had changed from a couple of hours earlier. It now looks like it will air after the news. I think the game went a bit late and they just switched the order.
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I'M SICK, THEY HAD THE LOCAL NEWS, NOT DATELINE
by bajarama inthey had dateline scheduled for 10:00 pm slot right afther the game.
instead our local nbc station ran the lame local news.
i have waited for a year to watch this.
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For those of us who Didn't See DATELINE.....
by Prisca in...could someone please give us a summary of what happened on the show, who was interviewed, what they said, what the reporter said, what the wts' pr said, etc.. it would be much appreciated, thanks..
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I'm in Mountain time and it doesn't air here until after the game and the news.
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Dateline showing in Arizona 9:00 pm PST (12 EST)
by stocwach init will be interesting to get everyone's input before i actually watch the show (the lakers game is preceding dateline here on the west coast, whereas the lakers game is following dateline on the east coast.
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In Denver, Dateline won't air until 11:35, after the game, the local news, and Jay Leno. :-(
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FRONT PAGE NEWS!
by Silverleaf ini'd just like to say congratulations to all those who've worked so hard and suffered so much at the hands of the wtbs to bring the pedophile scandal to the forefront.
i was thrilled to see the front page headline in my newpaper this morning [the record] .
"a battle rises within jehovah's witnesses".
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Our local NBC station (Denver, Colorado) is going to air the entire basketball game, then the news *and* Jay Leno, before it airs Dateline. The air time for us is 11:35 p.m.! So do be sure to check the local listings. My parents live in the Colorado Springs market, and their local station is airing the program at 10:35, right after the news.
Julie F.
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If you were leaving your partner...
by Sirona inif you were leaving your husband or wife and you knew that your leaving would cripple them financially, what would you do?
if you were leaving the family home and you knew that your actions would mean your spouse couldn't make the payments, would you offer to help?.
am i being unreasonable in expecting that if someone is going to destroy you and leave then they might be considerate enough to not also take away your home?
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Sirona, don't give up hope. Let me tell you what happened to me.
I was married to a real bastard; married him at age 17 (like a typical JW) and he was domineering, selfish, unloving, and emotionally abusive. By the time I was nearing 30, I was at the end of my rope. I knew I couldn't live with that man any longer, but I had two young children and had never worked. Fortunately, I got a job and that gave me the courage to leave, because I realized I *could* support myself and my children.
He made it extremely hard to leave, though, and in the end I decided that *nothing* was worth staying. I left him with the house, our business (a sideline in addition to his regular job that brought in quite a bit of money), half our possessions, and one of the two cars. I had absolutely nothing. I was making $4.75 an hour, had no benefits, was paying rent, and struggling to feed and clothe two kids. It was rough as hell.
I ended up going to school. That was difficult, too, but I qualified for financial aid. I also had to take out student loans--$18,000 total--which was a lot of money back in the 80s. I was poor as a church mouse the whole time I was in college, and by my last year in college I'd married my second husband, who turned out to be a total loser. I ended up supporting him, too, even while I was still in college. After I graduated, we bought a house (which I paid for). When we eventually broke up, he got half the equity (we sold the house) and we split our belongings down the middle. Once again, I owned a small business with this husband, which I had paid for myself. He got the business when we split up. My friends were horrified. They couldn't understand why I'd let him have half the equity and a business I paid for. But I was afraid that if we went to court, I'd end up having to pay him alimony!! Pretty screwed up, huh?
My half of the equity lasted nine months--that's how long it took me to find a job after I moved to another state. So I was starting out again with absolutely nothing.
Flash forward to today. I'm happily remarried, live in a lovely house, have plenty of money. And my first husband? He still lives in the same house (it's not much, believe me). He started a business for which he's in hawk up to his eyeballs. Even then, he's barely making enough to pay his overhead. He has virtually no money to live on. As you can see, the tables have really turned.
I don't have a single regret that I left those marriages, especially the first one, with nothing. What I have now I've earned myself, the hard way. And I'm proud of that. You might have some rough years ahead, but in the end you'll come out just fine, and you'll be a stronger person for it.
My husband, Alan, lost a LOT of money when he got divorced. He'd been married for nearly 20 years, and she got 75% of their net worth, including the house. Plus, he had to pay her $1600 a month for alimony and child support for one child. When we met, we were both starting out again, and Alan had big debts from his first marriage. But within just a few years, the circumstances had changed. We're doing very well financially. Alan's daughter has come to live with us and we no longer pay alimony and child support. We paid all of Alan's debts off. At first, Alan was really unhappy about his financial situation and the way his ex-wife bled him dry. But it all turned out for the best in the long run. And I think it will turn out fine for you, too. Just take it one day at a time, and concentrate on the future. You can do amazing things with your life, even if it takes a while. Two years might seem like a long time to you right now, but it will pass more quickly than you could imagine. I left my first marriage in 1984, and here it is now 2002. I can't believe how quickly those years went by, even the five difficult years I was in school.
Good luck to you. Hang in there, and keep your chin up.
Julie F
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Do you have German ancestors?
by GermanXJW inif you live in the united states and you have german ancestors that left their home country in the end of the 19th or beginning of the 20th century it is likly that they left germany via the harbor of hamburg.. the city of hamburg has begun to scan all emigrations lists.. you can do a search here:.
http://www.hamburg.de/fhh/behoerden/staatsarchiv/link_to_your_roots/english/index.htm.
the brief search result is free.
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Thanks, GermanJW. I'll have to check.
When we were living in Switzerland, we took a trip to Germany to try to find the little village my dad's famly came from. The name was Bucha and all we knew was that it was somewhere near Leipzig. I spent some time with maps before we left and located *two* towns called Bucha in that general vicinity. So we set off from Leipzig early one morning. All we had to guide us was a photo of the church my distant cousin took when he visited the village (he told my parents it was very difficult to find). We found a community center in the first Bucha, and in our stumbling German tried to find out about the other Bucha, because the one we were in wasn't the right one (wrong steeple on the church). Turns out there are FIVE Buchas within about 100 kilometers of Leipzig. We set out to find each one; it took us all day to drive to the first four on the list. Naturally, it wasn't any of them. But the next morning, after a very long and tedious trip, we finally found the right Bucha. It's a tiny little village, only several hundred residents. We found some locals who opened up the church for us, and I got to stand inside the church where my greatgrandfather and his siblings were baptized and married. It was pretty exciting. I still correspond with a girl we met there.
While we were in the area, we picked up a local phone book. Whenever my dad visits anywhere, he tries to find other people with the same last name--Bornschein--and he rarely does. I think all the Bornscheins in the US are our relatives. :-) But in the Leipzig phone book, there were pages and pages of Bornscheins, even one with my father's first name (Herbert) and several with the same first and middle names as some of my ancestors.
We love Germany and miss being able to visit there so easily. While we lived in Europe, we took two trips to the Mosel River area to buy wine, which is just about all gone now. Ah, those lovely Reislings. Maybe we'll get back there some day.
Julie Feuerbacher (yes, another German name)
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Norwegians: Stick With What You Are Good At.
by Englishman inim totally bewildered that norm, kent and jan appear to have distanced themselves from this site, particularly in view of the many excellent articles that have been written by this trio.. this was norms latest post on kents discussion forum, it sat on site for almost a day before anyone responded:.
the us whore .
these days bush is visited in texas by one of the worlds most oppressive and despotic rulers in history, the saudi-arabian ruler.
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Like the Norwegians (and most of the rest of the world, I might add), I disagree with the US policy on Israel. However, having said that, I don't think it's fair to attack the American people over this. US citizens have very little say about US policy. Plenty of people are just like me--very much opposed to our policy. We vote, but all you have to do is look at the last presidential election to see how much votes count for. US government does NOT equal individual US citizens. I did NOT vote for Bush; I dislike the man instensely and fear he's going to damage this country even more than his daddy and uncle Ronnie did. And, as to Norm's final comment, I've long used a bicycle for transportation, I walk, and I own a small car that gets good gas mileage. I don't amble on my "fat ass" over to Walmart. I'm a Target girl, myself. :-)
I don't like what the Israelis *or* the Palenstianians are doing. Both groups are bloodthirsty and driven by vengeance and retribution. I fear the only answer to the problems over there is to let them all kill each other off. But the Israelis definitely should NOT have the support of the US government in that endeavor.
Julie F, who didn't sit on her fat ass this afternoon but ran errands on her bicycle
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Service Report UK Jan2002
by dmouse inbad news for the uk, trend is up for publishers.
looks like the death of the wbts has been exaggerated.
shame..
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That's what I thought when I saw the numbers--really low Bible studies. And when you consider that probably 75% of them are family studies, the number's even lower!
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What do you think of I-MAC?
by zombie ini am thinking of getting a new computer.
i have an hp pc right now and thinking of switching to mac.
i saw the i-mac and fell in love with it --- its bucks but it does a ton of stuff.
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Hi Zombie.
If you want to use your computer for editing movies, you're right. iMovie is the best software you'll find. I'm an editor for a magazine called Connected Home and for the online newsletter that supports the magazine. We do lots of reviews of multimedia stuff, and for most multimedia tasks (music, video, etc.), the Mac is by far the best product. iMovie, iPhoto, and iTunes are fabulous stuff.
I've used both Macs and PCs for years, and the Mac has always been far more stable and has a better GUI. The new OS X is really cool--way cooler than XP. And you're right about the new iMac; it's really compact. I'd want one, too, if I hadn't just bought a new iBook (which is great; I'm set up for wireless and I absolutely love it).
My two cents worth. :-)
Julie F
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