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  six degrees of separation..claim to fame!

  by asortafairytale in

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  everyone is somehow connected to a celebrity, with that wondeful six degrees of separation.. for me, my aunt's(by marriage), first cousin is ally sheedy.. how are you related?

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  jukief

  I'm related to the famous Alan Feuerbacher.
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  Do You Think The Society Will Ever Go Broke?

  by minimus in

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  if the local congregations have no money to pay their own bills and the numbers of witnesses continue to drop off, how will the society last?

  we've heard about down sizing and layoffs.

  we've seen congregations merge because the bills aren't getting paid.

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  If someone has already posted this information, I apologize. I don't read most of the threads--just pop in once in a while to take a quick look.

  My nephew is a Bethel boy, and every once in a while I get a bit of news through my parents (my nephew's father--my brother--hasn't talked to me in 12 years, so I don't know my nephew at all). Anyway, he was home visiting a couple of weeks ago and he told my parents that the society is getting new presses and is moving everything upstate. He said that the guys who ran the old presses will be "out of a job." I couldn't get any more information, because my parents told me this after he went back home.

  Has anyone heard anything about this?

  As an aside, my mom asked my nephew what the society would do with all that Brooklyn property is the move the printing business upstate. She told him that all that property had to be worth millions and millions of dollars. I don't think he had a reply for that. :-)

  Julie F
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  I'M GETTIN' NERVOUS!

  by Mary in

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  my surgery (hysterectomy) is scheduled for this friday and i'm getting really nervous.........nervous that the cancer may have spread, nervous about the pain, nervous about what i'm going to go through mentally, physically and emotionally afterwards (i guess i'll be going through the change of life real quick).

  i've done pretty good so far: am trying to keep positive, eating right, exercising (i've lost 15 lbs!

  ), meditating, and i'm going on tuesday to someone who does reiki (i think that's how you spell it).

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  Hi Mary.

  I had a hysterectomy in June and I feel fabulous. Surgery is amazing these days; I had very little pain (took pain meds less than a week), only stayed overnight, and started walking again in a week. I healed very quickly and am very glad I had the surgery. I just turned 48.

  Good look. Attitude is everything; stay positive.

  Julie F.
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  QUESTIONS: NY March-Dress for Dinner & Weat...

  by abbagail in

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  helloooooo -- is anyone still out there online who is going to the march in ny on friday?.

  two quick questions, please, if anyone knows:.

  weather in new york - thursday/friday/saturday:.

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  My experience from living in NY and visiting the city many times on busines is that dress doesn't really matter. Only the most posh restaurants require that you dress up. You can wear jeans and a t-shirt just about everywhere. I don't think Bill or anyone else will want to go to an expensive restaurant after the cost of flying to and staying in the city, so you're safe. :-)

  Have fun. My hubby will be there to represent both of us.

  Julie Feuerbacher
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  Download panorama video

  by caballoSentado in

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  dear friends,.

  can anyone tell me where can i download the panorama program about child abuse?..

  thanks & have a nice day.

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  Simon, if you could make the files available somewhere where we can FTP them, it would be a great help. I've tried to show the streaming video files to several people, including my parents, but using a dial-up connection, the feed freezes and it's hard to follow. (At home I have cable modem, so don't have that problem.) If I could download the files to my laptop, I could carry it around and show it to the people who'd like to view it and don't have computers or decent connections.

  Thanks so much!

  Julie
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  Broadband internet what does it cost you?

  by haujobbz in

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  hello chums!!!

  i recently subscribed for broadband internet 512kbsec which "b.t" provides at 29.99 ( roughly about 50 dollars a month) is that expensive for the uk i think it is,what i want to know is which of you have broadband internet and how much does it cost monthly for your country mmmm im wondering if yours is cheaper.

  " later"

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  We have AT&T cable modem here in Colorado--for about $55 a month. We haven't had any problems at all. We have a home network (CAT5) and have a router set up as a firewall. All our household computers (five of them!) have 24x7 access. It's incredibly fast and has been very dependable. I work at home 75% of the time and count on having dependable access; I've been very happy with it. We have two phone lines and haven't had to tie any of them up with computers. Thank goodness, because Alan keeps one line occupied with his phone calls most of the time. LOL The kids and I use the other line. :-)

  Julie
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  Denver Post picks up NY Times article

  by jukief in

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  today's sunday denver post includes a shortened version of the ny times article.

  it's in the first section of the paper.. congrats, bill.

  i read the article online early, early this morning, and then went to the newsstand to pick up a copy of the paper this morning.

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  Today's Sunday Denver Post includes a shortened version of the NY Times article. It's in the first section of the paper.

  Congrats, Bill. I read the article online early, early this morning, and then went to the newsstand to pick up a copy of the paper this morning. It's nice to see it get such prominent placement in the paper.

  Julie Feuerbacher
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  Canada and Child Abuse - Need a Program There

  by Gedanken in

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  dateline was aired in the us, panorama in the uk - the missing link seems to be canada.

  a segment on as it happens, which is broadcast in much of the us would be terrific.

  any thoughts on how to accomplish this?.

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  Several years ago, CBC produced an excellent documentary called "Children of Jehovah." Maybe we can tell them how impressed we were with that program and encourage them to follow up with the issue of pedophiles.
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  The end of Watchtower Observer?

  by Wendy in

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  i was so saddened yesterday when i read this post by kent.

  http://kent.steinhaug.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=603.

  there is so much information on wo that have helped thousands of people.

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  I've known Kent for a long time (back before the Web began, when we were limited to email and posting on Usenet News) and I know how much time he's given to this cause. I also know how patient and understanding May Britt has been (she's much better at this than I am--I complain a lot, and publicly sometimes). I'm really glad to see that Kent is finally getting back to the business of living. It's long overdue, in my opinion, and Kent and I have had several discussions about this very thing.

  Just because Kent is "retiring" doesn't mean that the information on his Web site needs to be lost. A lot of people have come out of the organization in the past few years. Why can't some of these folks take up the slack? The older-timers, people like Kent and Randy, have devoted YEARS to this. At one time, I know Alan felt obligated to continue because there just weren't that many ex-JWs out there. But that's no longer the case. There are so many very competent ex-JWs now who can take some of the pressure off the old-timers (and many of them are doing so). I was so pleased to see how many people came forward when Alan asked for help with a project recently. It's nice to know that others who have benefited from all the hard work people like Kent have done are willing to invest some of their own time and effort.

  Kudos to Kent and all those who are willing to give of their time to help others. Simon, that surely includes YOU!

  Julie
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  Excellent POV film on PBS last night

  by jukief in

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  i watched a very interesting and touching program on pbs last night (tuesday).

  it portrayed a mormon family, the smiths, as they dealt with some very devastating circumstances.

  the husband was a closeted gay for many years who ended up getting aids and bringing it home to his wife.

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  Hi Susan.

  You're right; most of us ex-JWs don't understand how the Mormon church works. I was just commenting on how he talked about his grief over his loss--he wasn't able to participate in the church (he said just sitting in the pew wasn't enough for him). What I thought was awful was that he felt forced to lie to his bishop about being "cured" of his sexual orientation--something almost everyone agrees is impossible. That lie just caused him more guilt and pain. He lost his faith in the church at the end (but not his faith in god). On the other hand, the Mormons were much more tolerant than JWs would *ever* be. His family was accepted and supported, and because of the last-minute decision not to excommunicate him, he was able to speak at the going-away services for his son (who left on a mission three weeks before his father died).

  As for shunning, I don't agree. I had a good friend who was Mormon and lived in a small town in Utah. She "fell away" (I'm using JW speak here). That is, she just stopped going to temple. The result? She was shunned by the whole town. None of the Mormon children in the town would play with her sons. The shunning was so bad that she moved away, to Colorado, where I met her in the mid-80s. Her experience with the LDS church mirrored my own with the JWs. I, too, "fell away." (I was never DFed or DAed.) Several of my immediate family members shun me. So many rumors (all untrue) have circulated about me (the latest is that I'm physically violent when the JWs come to my door LOL) that many of the JWs in my hometown are wary and scared of me. So I think, in this respect, the Mormons are very much like the JWs. Maybe they don't atively shun people who are disfellowshipped, but they certainly do shun people when it suits them.

  I can certainly understand that the church would feel he needed discipline for his infidelity, but to punish him because of his sexual orientation (something over which he had no control) is very unloving, in my opinion. No one should be forced to lie about who he/she is. I know of several gay JWs who have lived a lie their entire lives. Both are absolutely miserable. I can understand that the JWs would force them to remain celebate, but they should be able to openly acknowledge thier homosexuality without fear of condemnation.

  Amazing, I'm glad you were able to overcome your feelings toward homosexuals. I've had a number of gay friends, and after seeing the pain they've gone through, I strongly believe that being gay is NOT a choice and that no one would ever willingly choose such a difficult path (especially a JW!). I'm not pro-gay, I just think gay people are like anyone else and should be treated accordingly. I, too, am an avowed heterosexual, much to Alan's relief. :-)))

  Waiting, I mostly agree with you. His own actions certainly resulted in his contracting AIDS and dying, but I don't think he's responsible for being gay. That was NOT his choice. He tried very hard NOT to be gay. And the church is guilty of not allowing him to be openly gay in the first place and forcing him to try to live a life as a heterosexual. (Mormons get married young like JWs do and are encouraged to have as many children as possible; imagine the pressure that would put on a gay man.) That's tragic for the wife. I can't imagine being in that position. His wife is truly an amazing person. Not only did she forgive her husband for his infidelity and for giving her a terminal disease, but she continued to love him and took care of him until he died. Not many people could be that forgiving or show that much love.

  Julie