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  Any currently active JWs in the Houstin area?

  by jukief in

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  if you're an active jw (go to a few meetings now and then, at least) and live in the houstin area, i'd very much like to talk to you about the current co there.

  please pm me.

  julie

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  jukief

  If you're an active JW (go to a few meetings now and then, at least) and live in the Houstin area, I'd very much like to talk to you about the current CO there. Please PM me. Thank you! Julie
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  Mark Furhman/Barbara Anderson Radio Interview on Real Audio

  by Dogpatch in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  thanks to danny haszard you can listen to the 75 minutes of interview with barbara anderson and linda john by the famous mark furhman from his mark furhman radio show (in four parts) from this link:.

  http://www.dannyhaszard.com/cultvideos.htm#barb.

  just click on one of the four parts to listen to it.

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  If you use Firefox as your browser, it will give you the option of opening the file or saving it to your computer.
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  A New Trend for JW Baby Boomers?

  by NYCkid in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm sure this topic has come up before but i'm new here :-) since many of us are offspring of the baby boomer generation or of a generation earlier, i've noticed a trend.

  my parents and their siblings who largely grew up as witnesses are now entering or have entered retirement age.

  although my parents were generally hard working and responsible people, they have little retirement savings.

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  My father, who's been a dub all his life and on the fringes since 1976, changed jobs 10 years before he retired. He went from labor (no pension) to management (profit sharing). He had $100,000 in profit sharing when he retired 13 years ago. He's managed to double that because he's continued to work at his own business since he retired from his regular job. I can't get my parents to spend their money. They're worried about having a lot to leave to us kids. Yeah, to my loser Circuit Overseer brother who still owes them $30,000 he borrowed 20 years ago, and my loser sister (married to an elder) who's been taking their money for her entire marriage of 35 years (her husband is worthless as a wage earner). I encourage my parents to enjoy their money--travel, buy a new car, etc.--but I think my dad still has that depression mindset. But they have a comfortable life, and I won't have to worry about taking care of them (my JW siblings would never consider doing so). But I hate to think of them going without things they'd enjoy just so my worthless JW siblings can spend their money within an hour after they die on frivolous things. It really pisses me off. I've noticed a trend among the boomer JWs I know. Back in the early 70s, when I was first married, my husband and his best friend, who both worked for the same company, didn't join the pension plan because they didn't think they'd need to worry about retirement money. Now this same friend is comfortably middle class, and not only is in the pension plan, but has been building storage units as investments. He is much more materialistic than any "worldy" person I know. They have the very best of everything. (And, ironaically, y ex-husband, who quit the religion, is poor as a churchmouse.) Another dub couple I know (the wife is my brother's sister-in-law) are wealthy. They've invested a lot of money in real estate. When I knew them, way back then, they were on the lower rungs of the income ladder. This woman's father, a die-hard elder who's my brother's father-in-law, has also made a lot of real estate investments. From what my parents tell me, there's a lot of talk about planning for retirement. I never heard that kind of talk when I was a dub (but then I quit in 1984). I think the boomers are realizing that Armageddon is'nt going to come in their lifetimes and that they'd better start thinking about retirement. They aren't like my parents' generation, many of whom decided to forgo having children and buying homes because the great day was so near at hand. Those oldtimers really believed. People don't any more.
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  SPIRITUALITY - A PERSONAL OUTLOOK

  by Dansk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear all,.

  most of you will be aware by now of my story regarding watchtower and, after exiting, finding i had an even greater battle to contend with - the fight against cancer!

  throughout this battle i have been helped by many people here.

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  jukief

  Very nice post, Ian. You and I have had several good discussions on this subject, and I've always found them very interesting. I can only say that I'm very envious that you've found peace with your spirituality. I know it gives you a lot of comfort. I wish I could say the same thing for myself. You're an amazing person, Ian. ((((Ian))))
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  What did Russell & Rutherford smoke/drink?

  by saved in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  (other than weed...) .

  what kind of cigar and liquor did these two enjoy?

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  In Rutherford's case, the easier question would be: What kind of liquor did he NOT enjoy?
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  Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE'

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  (baylor university, waco, tx) an essay entitled, "jehovah's witnesses, blood transfusions, and the tort of misrepresentation," found in the autumn issue of baylor universitys prestigious journal of church and state, published december 13, 2005, exposes the vulnerability of jehovahs witnesses religious organization to massive claims for compensation because of the religions misrepresentation of the medical risks of blood transfusions.

  this milestone essay critically examines one of the religions main publications for teaching their children and new recruits about their blood beliefs, how can blood save your life?

  the peer-reviewed essay details many misrepresentations of medical facts, which the religion partly relies on to support its blood prohibition, thus denying its members from making fully informed medical decisions.

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  Hi S4. I sent the press release to my parents. I'm going to get a copy of the article for them to read. I just hope it'll sink into dad's head that he's been lied to for years. It's odd that he's so stubborn about this one thing. He realizes that the Society's misrepresented science and a lot of other subject areas, but for some reason the whole blood thing really made an impact on him. It just goes to show what an emotional issue it is.
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  Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE'

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  (baylor university, waco, tx) an essay entitled, "jehovah's witnesses, blood transfusions, and the tort of misrepresentation," found in the autumn issue of baylor universitys prestigious journal of church and state, published december 13, 2005, exposes the vulnerability of jehovahs witnesses religious organization to massive claims for compensation because of the religions misrepresentation of the medical risks of blood transfusions.

  this milestone essay critically examines one of the religions main publications for teaching their children and new recruits about their blood beliefs, how can blood save your life?

  the peer-reviewed essay details many misrepresentations of medical facts, which the religion partly relies on to support its blood prohibition, thus denying its members from making fully informed medical decisions.

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  To illustrate how harmful the Society's misrepresentations about blood transfusions are, consider this: My parents are no longer JWs. After being in the organization for more than 50 years (70+ years in my dad's case), they've given up the ghost. They don't believe in any of the Society's doctrines. They no longer accept the "scriptural" argument against blood transfusions (heck, they don't even accept the Bible as an inspired book and are doubtful about their belief in god). But my father still refused to consider a blood transfusion as recently as a year and a half ago, when he had coronary bypass surgery. Why? Because the Society has been extremely successful at brainwashing him into believe that blood transfusions are dangerous. My sister, who has a PhD in biology, and I, argued unsuccessfully that the slight chance of getting AIDS or some other "loathsome disease" (my dad's words) were much less than the significant danger of not accepting blood should he need it during surgery. We couldn't convince him. I think he knew, deep down, that we were right. But years of brainwashing is difficult to undo. So my father, who no longer believes the religious aspects of the doctrine, has bought hook, line and sinker into the so-called medical "facts" the Society has presented year and year, for almost as long as he was a JW. And he's willing to die--not over religious beliefs--but because he bought into the lies. This is a lot bigger than the R&F going along with "new light" if the Society were to suddenly change the doctrine. If my father were to refuse a blood transfusion and die, I'd be able to successfully sue the Society because he was lied to about the medical facts--not because he chose to go along with a religious doctrine. And don't think I'd hesitate even a second to do so. Barbara, this is gigantic. Thanks so much.
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  Good Afternoon!

  by Stanollie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm dansk's son, dominic.

  this is my first post.

  just thought i'd pop in and say hello..

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  Dominic! Remember me? I came and bugged you guys for a couple of days in April--Julie Feuerbacher. Happy to see you here. I don't come to this forum often--mostly just to check on news of your dad. But I think you'll find lots of encouragement and friends here. I really enjoyed meeting you in April and hope to see you again on my next trip to England. Welcome to the forum! Hugs, Julie
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  "No Apologies is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses"

  by No Apologies in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sometimes i just don't know when to keep my big mouth shut.

  today i think finally said enough to get da'd.. for those of you just tuning in, a recap: about 2-3 years i came to realize everything i had been taught as a jw was a load of steaming turds.

  since then i have managed to fade away more or less, without incident.

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  No Apologies, sorry to hear you're going through this. I got cornered, too, by several sets of elders at various time (one of them my brother-in-law!), but no one ever DAed or DFed me. So maybe it won't work out as you fear. Hang in there. I'd give you a big hug if I were there (OK, well, maybe I wouldn't). :-) Julie
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  My Scan Results

  by Dansk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as many of you will know, yesterday i received my scan results from the haematologist.

  when i entered his office he was beaming and so i thought the news would be good.

  the chemotherapy has shrunk the cancerous lymph nodes in my stomach substantially!!

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  How fabulous, Ian. I'm so happy for you and Claire and the kids. Keep up the good work. We'll keep sending positive vibes your way. Lots of hugs and love, Julie