Posts by julien

This is probably the smartest thing I've heard all day! Has anybody else "woken up" the way I have because of this situation? The air smells better - food tastes better - hugs to my loved ones are a little tighter - "I love yous" are a little freer. Don't let these wonderful gifts slip out from your under your noses people. Take a moment to count your blessings!

I have been counting my blessings every single day since I came to grips with my own mortality.

Bobsgirl do you have an URL regarding the Israeli intelligence?

6

TALIBAN ASKS for MERCY!

by Amazing in

jw
friends

in afghanistan, the so-called faction claiming to be the ruling party over the nation is urging (politicalese term for begging) the usa not to bomb them.

why ask not to be bombed unless they are guilty of harboring the wicked terrorists?

read for yourself.

julien

If the Taliban help bin Laden in any way then it doesn't matter if he is not there now.. they are still culpable.

6

TALIBAN ASKS for MERCY!

by Amazing in

jw
friends

in afghanistan, the so-called faction claiming to be the ruling party over the nation is urging (politicalese term for begging) the usa not to bomb them.

why ask not to be bombed unless they are guilty of harboring the wicked terrorists?

read for yourself.

These taliban are scumbags who absolutely need to be uninstalled. Not only they are harboring Bin Laden who deserves to be shaved head to toe and tossed naked into a US maximum security prison, but their treatment of women is among the worst in the world. They also support public execution, amputations, systematic killings, kidnappings.

I'm not saying they should necessarily be bombed, just that they be removed with extreme prejudice.

2

Armageddon, World Trade Center and JW's

by Unclepenn1 in

jw
friends

ok, i have a few comments/questions i would like to throw out there for someone to answer who is devoted to the wtbts.. first of all, in light of yesterday's tragedy, we saw horrible destruction.

according to the wt manual "you can live in paradise on earth', everybody on earth will be destroyed on the day of armageddon except jw's.

there are a myriad of pictures in their literature, discussing this subject.... of people being pummeled with hailstones, widespread fires, buildings toppling over onto thousands, the earth swallowing up kids, cars, widespread panic, etc.

julien

I think it is safe to say that JWs rarely think deeply on the implications of numerous of their doctrines that are problematic such as this one or JW style resurrection (AKA "star trek transporter duplicator effect"). These details are swept under the blanket "we don't understand details, Jehovah will work it all out"..

30

Society's Press Release about the tragedy

by Esmeralda in

jw
friends

chasson posted this in another thread, and i think it should be brought to the forefront.

thank you, chasson for showing us all this link.. typical society response to tragedy.

so three people got out and got to brooklyn.

julien

thewiz, I believe you when you say you don't look forward to the death of mankind at god's hands. But can you deny that you pray for the new system to come? And that means that you're also praying for Armageddon to come, which means you're praying for the majority of mankind, including children and babies, to be slaughtered by your god and his angels. It's easy to forget about this part of it and focus on the "glorious new system," but you have to live with the reality that if your Armageddon comes as you hope and pray, you'll witness some of the most horrifying events imaginable.

For example if in one week the society decide that this WAS in fact the start of the GT, and issued a statement to all JWs that the plane crashes were in actually orchestrated by YHWH (using the terrorists as his tool) what would the R&F JWs do.. ? start rejoicing ? if they truly believed that YHWH *DID* really do it you bet they would. So it boils down to this:

if terrorists destroy tens of thousands of lives ooh that is horrible. What is the difference when God destroys 6 billion lives?

What a lot of us here are trying to get JWs to understand is how utterly abhorrent their "final solution" for man's happiness truly is.

30

Society's Press Release about the tragedy

by Esmeralda in

jw
friends

chasson posted this in another thread, and i think it should be brought to the forefront.

thank you, chasson for showing us all this link.. typical society response to tragedy.

so three people got out and got to brooklyn.

julien

JWs can't really and truly care about these poor victims being slaughtered

u just made more of an ass of yourself than you could ever imagine

Easy for you to say, but how can you reconcile sympathy for these victims with an active desire for God to do the exact same thing. This sort of scenario is exactly the type of thing that has been printed in WT pictures of armageddon. You can call me names all you want, but you know what I say is true.

Please stop calling me names or I might have to leave the board in a huff.

30

Society's Press Release about the tragedy

by Esmeralda in

jw
friends

chasson posted this in another thread, and i think it should be brought to the forefront.

thank you, chasson for showing us all this link.. typical society response to tragedy.

so three people got out and got to brooklyn.

julien

nytelecom

You are missing the point. JWs can't really and truly care about these poor victims being slaughtered because they are praying every day that WTBTS-Jehovah will DO THE SAME THING TO THE ENTIRE WORLD! Also I don't see why we have to resort to name calling you dickhead.

30

Society's Press Release about the tragedy

by Esmeralda in

jw
friends

chasson posted this in another thread, and i think it should be brought to the forefront.

thank you, chasson for showing us all this link.. typical society response to tragedy.

so three people got out and got to brooklyn.

julien

nytelecom2

Why don't you get bent. I am not talking about the actions of individual witnesses, especially those who are personally impacted. I am talking about the rest of the dubs around the country such as chipster who gloated that this was the GT etc etc. And primarily about the policies of the WTBTS that allow this type of attitude. The attitude of we take care of our own, etc etc. Obviously most JWs who are friends with someone experiencing this type of loss will show compassion.

30

Society's Press Release about the tragedy

by Esmeralda in

jw
friends

chasson posted this in another thread, and i think it should be brought to the forefront.

thank you, chasson for showing us all this link.. typical society response to tragedy.

so three people got out and got to brooklyn.

julien

While every company and their brother, as well as charitable and religious organizations were pledging money and setting up relief funds and humanitarian aid, the WTBTS releases the following:

"Food and refreshments are provided to the people who streamed in the building."

ArgCampeon you question why apostates are not happy with anything the Watchtower does? It is this type of thing, they don't care about anyone but their own members. It makes me sick that JWs are secretly eating this tragedy up because they percieve it somehow validates their "last days" world view. They don't give a rat's ass about thousands of sons daughters mothers and fathers dying horribly, they are just worldly people; oh but praise WTBTS-Jehovah that three JWs lived, let's get some refreshments.