Posts by julien

Donkey is saying Sagan said "BILLIONS", he just didn't say "BILLIONS AND BILLIONS." I seem to remember him saying BILLIONS AND BILLIONS too but old memories like that can be unreliable.

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History doomed to repeat itself...

by Reborn2002 in

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another fine example of the violation of civil liberties perpetrated by the bush administration / ashcroft-led justice department under the guise of fighting "terror.

is this not "terror" in itself?

at what point is it acceptable for the american people to allow such actions to be committed against fellow american citizens simply because these people are of arab descent?

julien

Case in point: The Washington snipers turned out to be BLACK AMERICANS which shook everybody up.
Shall we now begin detaining blacks just because two of them are terrorists??? The percentage of Arab Muslims who are terrorists vs. those who are peace loving people doesn't even BEGIN to make sense.

This isn't exactly the same. The snipers acted independently; they are not part any organization which represents a continuing threat. The 9/11 terrorists were part of a global organization whose members are all pretty much all muslim and arab. That organization exists and is still a threat. The people rounded up were not random Muslims. They had commited violations.

Anyway it's like when your doctor has to remove a cancer tumor. Generally a lot of healthy flesh gets cut out too, just to make sure you get all the cancer cells. Unfortunately that is the price you have to pay if you want to continue to live. And the US government probably feels the same way about terrorists. Could Al Qaeda destroy America? How many airline bankruptcies can we take? How much lower can the economy go? Can you afford to pay mortgage when you have no job? What about if there is another attack and mob mentality develops, and people start lynching anyone with an arab accent? Would that be worse or better than what just happened?

We pay this price now to hopefully prevent having to pay a higher price later.

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Calling All Artists - Both Good and Crappy!

by Stephanus in

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i fall into the latter category, i'm afraid.

below are the photo i worked from (taken on last year's cruise) and the watercolour i produced from it:.

post your scanned art in this thread!

julien

Here's another recent one:

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Calling All Artists - Both Good and Crappy!

by Stephanus in

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friends

i fall into the latter category, i'm afraid.

below are the photo i worked from (taken on last year's cruise) and the watercolour i produced from it:.

post your scanned art in this thread!

julien

SYN yah that's a modified Julia set, its the natural choice for me heh. Ruby Tues I used a program called Ultra Fractal to make it.

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Calling All Artists - Both Good and Crappy!

by Stephanus in

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friends

i fall into the latter category, i'm afraid.

below are the photo i worked from (taken on last year's cruise) and the watercolour i produced from it:.

post your scanned art in this thread!

julien

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Post your Christmas tree pics here

by WildHorses in

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i already posted this in another post but i thought it would be nice to have a thread just for everyones trees.

here is mine.

edited to ad a pic of nicole and manuel in front of the tree.

julien

Edited by - julien on 11 December 2002 23:47:23

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Why is it so easy to summon the Demons?

by LyinEyes in

i was thinking about this the other day, and really things just don't make sense to me since leaving the borg.

being jw's we are told to fear the demons, they are there just to get us away from god.

don't buy from yard sales, don't watch demonized movies, don't look at porn because demons love that.

julien

Dear god, hope you get the letter and...
I pray you can make it better down here
I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer
But all the people that you made in your image
See them starving on their feet
'Cause they don't get enough to eat from god
I can't believe in you

Dear god, sorry to disturb you but...
I feel that I should be heard loud and clear
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears
And all the people that you made in your image
See them fighting in the street
'Cause they can't make opinions meet about god
I can't believe in you

Did you make disease and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!

Dear god don't know if you noticed but...
Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book
And us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look
And all the people that you made in your image
still believing that junk is true
Well I know it ain't, and so do you
Dear god
I can't believe in
I don't believe

I won't believe in heaven or hell
No saints, no sinners, no devil as well
No pearly gates, no thorny crown
You're always letting us humans down
The wars you bring, the babes you drown
Those lost at sea and never found
And it's the same the whole world 'round
The hurt I see helps to compound
That father, son and holy ghost
Is just somebody's unholy hoax
And if you're up there you'll perceive
That my heart's here upon my sleeve
If there's one thing I don't believe in

It's you
Dear god

from Fossil Fuels: The XTC Singles