i have been lurking around here for some time,,, i personally know laurie fitzwater and what she has gone through we lived in bradenton.
florida in the late 80's .... she is the one telling me to come here for help ,,, a hug ,,, i have a nightmare of a story which involves married to a professed annointed one who made me and my childrens life pure hell on earth....i guess he needed to be replaced as he was df twice and was never a ms or elder..... go figure i suffer from severe depression and post-traumatic stress and have tried to end it all numerous times... but the turning point for me was this demon--inspired internet and all the truth it contains i also read george orwells.. 1984 --big brother is watching ,,,, doublespeak;;;; its us versus them just to name a few of my eye---opening events i have 5 children,,, and only one my baby (16) in the borg....... i really cant go on ,,, i have emailed lady lee and she helped me alot .... but i have to be careful...... there are spies everywhere....i still attend meetings.
to some extent... missed the assembly this weekend tho.. so please be gentle and reasure me.... i am baby--stepping,,, i am doing the work.............
Dear Wildfire,
Welcome. Your going to be ok. Your at a milestone right now and it can be quite tramatic. Waking up to the truth about the truth is such a strange and hard to explain experience. We're hrer for you. We've all been there and know how you feel. Its a nightmare at first then it gets better then it becomes a huge relief and finally you will feel NORMAL ( as normal as one can be , anyway)
take care....jurs
i need help in finding out just what kind of mind control the jw's use on their members.
i have never been a jw, and need some specifics on this to help my sister, who is a jw.. just what kind of fear tactics did they instill upon you, and other ways of mind controlling?.
i know all the doctrines from research i have done, but not really sure on the specific things they said to keep you in, not listen to outsiders, and fear from leaving the orginization.. you all are so helpful in these posts, and i know you all will give me some great info.. thanks so much, grace4u
I think the org definately uses mind control. My kids are the most precious things to me but when I was a JW I would have let them die rather than to take blood. When I first learned about abstaining from blood I didn't agree with the JW's somewhere, somehow , I can't even explain it I'm signing a card refusing blood and having someone witness it. It never fully made sense but yet I believed. Only a fellow Xwitness can maybe relate to that experience. Its a cult that controls your mind. How else would millions of people ALL believe the SAME way. Why else would intelligent people(because some are) believe such silly crap (kids cant eat boo berry cereal, trolls ,smurfs,) . jurs
about yourself.... my pc is in my bedroom.
i do, in fact, have a pc in each room connected by a lan, but this is my pc and this is my very comfortable corner where i like to chill out, play mutliplayer games over ther internet, and of course post numerous fluff posts at jwd.
just by me is a window which, until last week, looked out on some beautiful trees.
Venice, Good for you! I work in a salon/spa. Skin care is a wonderful field. Everyone loves a facial!
as for what i'm doing I got a job at rhe salon in May after I finished school. Its fun but nerve racking some people think I'm a magician rather than a beautician! Ha ha . Tonight I'm going out with some friends. Were going to eat a ton of food, get drunk and gossip . .......jurs
i recently was told by a couple of elders how much they "missed" me since i am no longer an elder.
i got to thinking , "did i miss anything because i'm not an elder?".
i have to say that i really can't think of anything that i truly miss.
I don't miss a single thing. When I was still in the org and still thought it was the "truth" I use to wish that no one had come to my door and that I was ignorant if Jehovah's org.......jurs
Hi Tanya,
Welcome!!! I think you'll really like it here! JURS
i have purchased my hubby every tool i think known to man, with the exception of one of those "saw table thingies".
i need some good ideas for a man who seems to own pretty much everything..... interesting "toy" ideas (i.e.
he has a metal detector) would be great too.. what gadgets would you men buy for yourselves if you could?.
My husband LOVES his beer making kit. They have really nice kits you can purchase over the net. also nice beer pilsner glasses. Or a good pocket knife. jurs
i brought this up during the beginnings of the flame war we just encountered and it got overlooked.
for all of you who follow the bible/or not.
luke 9.
I'm glad you brought that scripture up. I've read it before and never even thought of the implications. Reading it this time, I would agree that religions that say they are the only way are not correct. Good work!!! It keeps us thinking!!!!
jurs
something i have observed since i've left the org is that people who were raised in the org and have lots of family in , aren't able to really act like a grown up.
its more like a teenager sort of thing.
i've read where adults won't openly celebrate holidays because of fear of being shunned by parents.
Something I have observed since I've left the org is that people who were raised in the org and have lots of family in , aren't able to really act like a grown up. Its more like a teenager sort of thing. I've read where adults won't openly celebrate holidays because of fear of being shunned by parents. Even if it means that their own kids will have to loose out on having a normal life. They won't admit to family that they really don't believe in JW beliefs ect. ect. They sneak, lie and hide for fear of being shunned. What I find to be interesting is "in the world" so to speak, when adults live lifestyles or have issues that could and DO cause them to be estranged from their parents and families their better able to let go. I know more than a few people who are NOT JW's , whose parents don't speak to them , and its not the end of the world to them. I wasn't raised a JW but came in as an adult. My parents disowned me!!!! I had no relationship with my family because I became a JW. It hurt terribly but but I knew I could deal with it and thought they were the ones that were wrong. I never thought to hide it from them that I was a JW. I would have done the same if it were ANY issue. I know a man whose mother wouldn't talk to him because of whom he had married but it didn't stop him from marrying her and he accepted it. Why are these JW family relationships put above all else?? I hope I don't6 sound judgemental , I really just don't understand it. JURS
currently i am unofficially da.
everyone will talk to me if i run into them but they don't try to get in contact with me or see me.
i live in a rural area on one of the main roads so they will see my house.
Shakita,
I guess I do come across a bit gruff but the way I look at it is her kids should be her main concern. They're getting older and that opportunity is going to forever lost. I think one was 17 years old!! This is it. I think its healthy to cut the apron strings about how her parents and the congregation might react. Its a normal grownup thing to do. jurs
lark its 10:30 where i live and i'm exhausted but i know i won't sleep well till i tell you i'm sorry.
i don't feel very good about the way i talked to you.
also i love trivia and would like to know about the essens.
Lark and Riz,
HUG HUG HUG Thanks Lark for the response !!!!!! I really am going to bed now!!! Laura
