i susspect life in the new system will very much like life in this one... the reality is we get a new system every four years and it seems to work pretty much the same no matter who runs it... wait, you are talking about the presidential debates right?
elderelite
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Standard of Living in the New System
by cobaltcupcake ini used to wonder about this when i was still a dub: since they believe the industrialized world is going to be destroyed and the entire earth will be one big garden, exactly what kind of standard of living do they think they will have?
while they might be able to scavenge, say, a microwave oven or washing machine; and they might be able to figure out how to generate electricity, eventually all of these things will wear out and they'll be back in an early 18th century type of life.
people of that time and earlier who enjoyed a high standard of living employed armies of servants to do the dirty work, but since equality will reign in the ns, everyone will have to toil like a slave just to maintain the basics.. or do they think that big j will magically power their washing machines and water pumps and all the stuff that makes modern living so comfortable?.
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Jesus wife fragment is a fake
by Christ Alone inhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.
gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.
karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.
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elderelite
Oh tec.... really dear? Really really? So you lied. You do subscribe now to the whole jeshua whatyamacallhim thing.. Wow. And its interesting that you took so long and so surreptitious a route to get there. You couldnt just 'woman up' and admit it. You spent days ducking and dodging a simple question from me about whether or not you were going with the whole thing or just the first part. You ducked and dodged in a way that would have made muhammad ali proud but finally admitted that yes you were going with the jeshua thing. Then when i press you about the second part you ducka and weave again, accuse me of talking to aguest through you, blah blah blah. But when its all said and done you finally, slyly, sneak in there 'oh yea and the meshua too'. NIce.
Its easy to see why you are reluctant to admit it. I take you back to something i said previously in this post that you tried to attack and explain away:
No one, in the history of mankind, over the last 2000 years has EVER idenified the lord jesus in this way.
In 2000 years you and your prophetess are the only two people living, ever, to hear this from him. And yet we arnt supposed to think that you got this from her? That this isnt a clear and obviouse case of you being drawn into a cult of personality? seriously? you really think that you are so special or so good at hearing that you somehow heard something no one else in 2000 years has ever heard, except aguest, and more incredibly, expect that otherwise intelligent people arnt going to assume that you got the name from the only other person in history to use it?
There is no amount of copy of paste and respond to my words that is going to explain away the reality. You have been sucked into a cult once again. No matter if its a cult of one or a cult of 7 million, you are following a person. You have been convinced that her words are now yours. its both sad and scarry.
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My birthday
by Chariklo intoday i am celebrating my first birthday after dutifully refusing to observe birthdays, thanks to the jehovah's witnesses.
not for as many years compared with most of you, but enough, and worst of all was that i dutifully refused even to celebrate my grandchildren's birthdays.
that hurt me far more than them.
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elderelite
Well a very very happy birthday to u, charlie!!!! May the thunder bless this you day as we all lraise him and thank him that we have you with us! (((charlie))))
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"My sheep hear my voice."
by tec inpeace to you!.
lately there have been some accusations, allegations, concerns, and questions regarding how i hear our lord.
so i thought i would take a moment to nip this one in the bud, rather than have my words twisted further than what they have been.
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elderelite
Jeheshua. His name is jehesha. Or mr whatchamacallhim, if please. He evidently dosent go by Jesus but waited 2000 years to wisper it to two select individuals on a jw discussion board. Stay with it chappy. Enthrone din 1914, choose fds in 1919, fds comes into being in 1979, 2012 he reveals name is jeheshua
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"My sheep hear my voice."
by tec inpeace to you!.
lately there have been some accusations, allegations, concerns, and questions regarding how i hear our lord.
so i thought i would take a moment to nip this one in the bud, rather than have my words twisted further than what they have been.
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elderelite
Tec, do you understand the position you take when you say that you dont hear the words audibly but rather hear them in the spirit and could dismiss them as something comming form yourself...? And then all of a sudden you hear the whole jeshua name...? And then say some are mocking and twisting. Really? You ask me to belive its winter time when its 100 degrees in july.
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Jesus wife fragment is a fake
by Christ Alone inhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.
gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.
karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.
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elderelite
I totally understand that and thats 100% legit. Nobody wants to be compared or have to answer for some else's POV.... But I hope you can understand why i asked, specifically, what YOU heard in light of the fact that
1)the name jehshua isnt at all a common rendering for the lord
2) the only person I have ever personally encountered that used it was Aguest
Those points led me to ask about the second part she adds to it and if you had heard that as well. It was a legitimate question that i asked YOU, not about her but about YOU, in light of her useage and your friendship with her.
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So Men tell me
by Lady Lee inwhat do you like as a gift?
i have absolutely no idea what to make or give my son-in-law for his birthday or for christmas.
he has all the newest gadgets which i could not afford anyways so i am stumped.. gotta be inexpensive (on a strict budget) and if i can make it all the better.
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elderelite
LL, if he likes a specific beer that you can get him that he dosent otherwise have access to, that would tickle me pink! Beer is god's (meaning Thor) gift to man, and if you give it to him that makes you the next best thing to God!
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Jesus wife fragment is a fake
by Christ Alone inhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.
gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.
karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.
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elderelite
ok TEC, that is fair enough, however the way you dodged when i simply wanted to confirm what you 'heard' made me wonder if you heard it and were afraid to say so or simply didnt hear it. Sometimes it is good to have someone on the record clearly. I wasnt trying to frustrate you but rather be clear in my own mind and confirm/deny details.
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Jesus wife fragment is a fake
by Christ Alone inhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.
gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.
karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.
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elderelite
Tec, the deflections are hilarious... Lets try again. Im not asking aguest, im asking you, T.E.C., if when you heard the name wispered, did you hear the whole thing aguest claims to hear, of did you only hear jeshua. Thats not talking to aguest through you, thats asking YOU a simple question.
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Jesus wife fragment is a fake
by Christ Alone inhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.
gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.
karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.
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elderelite
Lol so you avoid the question. Very well. You didnt answer so i take it you didnt hear the full thing... This time. Maybe he just wispered it too quietly. Listen harder and youll be spouting the whole jeshua whatchamacallhim in no time! Just like her...
And lest we overlook, dear one, it was YOU who brought up the idea that the name has been used before. I challenged you back up that completely made up LIE by providing just ONE person, aside from your prophetess, who has ever used that rediculous name she made up for her god. ONE person.