gotta say that may have been the start of my slide...I HATE the new song book. I dont like remixes as a rule with worldly songs, so this burned me up. To take perfectly good songs and ruin them is just plain stupid. I had high hopes when i first heard about it but the more I saw the less i liked. It hasnt gotten any better.
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The new Kingdumb maladies
by WTWizard ini wonder if anyone actually enjoys them.
i have heard scattered reports about how a few actually enjoyed at least a few of the older songs (back when there were 225 of them).
but i have heard nothing but reports of the new songs being impossible to properly sing, very poorly written or performed, or downright blasphemous and promoting blatant idolatry.
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Generation 'New Light' is Actually Working
by zoiks inas ridiculous as it seems to me and most of you, the infamous 'generation' update has every jw that i know in a tizzy.
they're all worked up about how 'exciting' it all is.
i just received a letter from my mom (she only communicates through letters now), and she brought it up - how they carefully explained it at the convention, and how it shows that we are so close to the end.. unbelievable.
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I still don't know how they can break the pattern with the primary (typical) fulfillment this thorougly without having members call BS en masse
Has the concept of dual fulfillment been around for so long that JW's no longer understand the precepts behind it?
YES! I had a long discussion about this with another elder on my body a few days ago. first I asked him what he though about the generation teaching. He said he agreed with it and it made sense to him. Come to find out he didn't know the "new" teaching" and was still stuck on the "wicked generation" teaching. Hows that for keeping up with the chariot. In any event he read the two paragraph explanation and decided it made perfect sense. When questioned on how that could work, he twisted and turned every which way. I kept pinning him down, asking a question similar to one vm44 was asking, how could people 50 years apart in age be of "the same generation". He of course had no answer on that. He then tried to say that everyone who sees an event could be said to be of the same generation, i.e. everyone who saw the first space shuttle launch could be said to be of the space shuttle generation. OK fair enough. but according to the WT new definition, everyone who is part of this "new generation' teaching DIDNT HAVE TO SEE 1914, they just had to OVERLAP with someone who saw it. Pure stupid. He ultimately agreed but didnt quite. he threw out some more nonsense to which I finally asked what TD was referencing. I asked how that could possibly apply to the first century. He said..."what?" Yea, how could that possibly apply to the first century. Jesus was giving an indication to the first century Christians about the destruction of Jerusalem. How does "overlapping generations" apply there...? and pointed out that ultimately it didn't apply since the destruction came within less than 40 years, a time frame anyone could agree is within a generation. and they all saw ALL of the events, not in overlapping generations. His best answer was "we will have to wait on clarification from Jehovah". Dude, this IS clarification. The fifth time. and he didn't even think of nor was he bothered by the lack of a first century application or the complete and lack of scripture to back any of this mess up.
Its sad to see someone I really respect and think is otherwise very smart get so caught up that he falls back on waiting for re clarification of the clarification. Is this how brain dead I was? How bad is it when elder, who are supposed to be teachers, let themselves be numbed like this. But to answer the question...
oh yes its working. And working well.
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Convention
by PYRAMIDSCHEME ini am off to convention tomorrow.
for the first time in my life i don't want to go...but i have to, this sucks..
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elderelite
Garyneeal,
that is a great Idea! We need though, not a word, but a gesture of some kind that will tip off those in the know. I am going to PA in a few weeks and, as some have said, not looking forward to it. The only saving grace for me is that as an elder I have a "privilege" and thus will get to legitimately not pay attention for the most part. I laugh at those who don't play the game to maximum advantage
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Not a big deal to some but a big deal to me!
by Simon Morley in2010:07:01 offically "inactive" - whats next?
- flurry of calls?, co/coboe "we want to encourage you..."?
given the vitrolic nature of my exit i doubt they want to come around.
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elderelite
happy birthday?
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Ladies: Would You Work Overnight?
by snowbird ini've been offered the option of working from 8 pm until 4 am.. pay is a little more.. the only drawback is the drive to and fro.. have you ever done something similar?.
syl.
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elderelite
all of my favorite ladies work overnight.
wait.... we're not talking about the same thing are we?
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My Hovercraft Is Full Of eels
by metatron ini didn't want to keep this vital foreign phrase from you.
in every language, here it is.. http://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/hovercraft.htm.
metatron.
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elderelite
monty python is hystarical... my personal favorite involves a dead parrot and the phrase "you stuned him now"... funny beyond words...
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Service is mathematically and logically pointless.
by confliction inso, i was thinking today about the point of service, other than the proclamations the king and his kingdom (bs :p ) and i kind of had an epiphany... but i'm sure somebody has already thought of this.
first, for people who never hear the 'truth', or never come to a true accurate understanding of it, they will most likely have odds in favor of them surviving into the paradise earth to get a second chance.
let's say the odds are 99% survival.. .
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w908/15p.19 Loyally Working With Jehovah t he Work of Greatest Value13
The most urgent need today is to preach the good news that the Kingdom of Jehovah God will soon replace all worldly governments and bring the relief for which God-fearing persons long. (Daniel 2:44; Matthew 24:14) Jesus Christ made the preaching of the heavenly Kingdom his main purpose in life, though his preaching was limited to the land of Palestine. Today, the extent of this preaching is worldwide, just as Jesus said it would be. (John 14:12; Acts 1:8) To have a share, even a small one, in God’s work, is a privilege beyond compare. Men and women, old and young alike, who at one time never dreamed of being preachers of the good news are in the forefront of the evangelizing work being accomplished by Jehovah’s Witnesses today. Like Noah and his family, they are loyally doing God’s work under commission from Him, and therefore in His strength, as a prelude to the end of this system of things.—Philippians 4:13; Hebrews 11:7.14
The witnessing work by Jehovah’s Witnesses during these last days is lifesaving for those who listen and who act upon the good news they hear. (Romans 10:11-15) It is also a safeguard for those who preach. By being sincerely interested in helping people who have problems greater than our own, we are less likely to become overly concerned with problems we may have. We realize that this world of declining standards would have us conform to its ways. So filling our minds with God’s thoughts during our preaching is more than faith-strengthening; it is in our best interests. As one Witness put it: “If I do not try to change the people I meet, they could change me!”—Compare 2 Peter 2:7-9 . -
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Most annoying quotes you are going to hear from JW's
by XPeterX insomething like: "would jesus do that/go there?
" i tell them: "would he own a luxurious bmw or mercendes?".
what are some quotes/expressions invented by jw's that really pissed you off?.
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elderelite
"wait on Jehovah". And its especially annoying to hear it from elders. After all, how does Jehovah fix things in the organization if its not thru those he has appointed IN the organization. Its a cop out for inactivity.
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What Are Songs That You Just LOVE?
by minimus ini'm a lover of r&b, soul, funk.
i like rock and very little country.. one of my favorite songs is by r&b legend al green.
it's "let's stay together".
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elderelite
thank you for this thread.. I need a smile
I was born in the 70's, thus grew up in the 80's as a metal head. I have always concidered it part of my parenting to educate my kids on rock and metal. one of their earliest intro's was "every rose has its thorn"...
that and anything done by Eddie Van Halen
darn last post for 12 hours. I hate being a newbie....