Posts by justhuman

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Ever have a paranormal event in your life, please share?

by free2beme in

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i am one who believes strongly in the spirit realm, paranormal activity, etc.

even with such a strong belief, i am often told by skeptics that such things are foolish and nonsense.

while i accept people have the right to feel however they want, i have often shared stories with people that are hard to explain with logic and find others have events like this too.

justhuman

Whoa Loubelle...

In fact I do recall some paranormal events...

1.I was small kid around 6 and in my dream I have seen my next door neighbour dying. Next morning he was dead. I kind of have a vission of his dead...

2.I was again kid around 11 and we had the book study at KH. Everybody left exept our family, my dad who was an elder. I was pretty much sure that everybody left and we were the last ones left at the KH. There was no cars or anything. Then I looked at the door small opening between the double huge doors. It was all the elders sitting and having a meeting. Plus they were some I didn't knew. It was so strange that I haven't see anyone of them coming at the KH since it was a book study, and there was only one entrance at KH.

3.Loubelle I do have those strange dreams like you. In fact I still do. Not as frequent as before but they still come here and then.Fighting with Demons, Satan, dark places, flying over my body and carried by Demons. Those dreams are so alive. I wake up sometimes shouting loud

4. Once I was on the beach and listening to Epithaph by Nazaret. I left my body and I was flying over the sea. I could see my self lying there...

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When has Science Ever been proven wrong by the Bible?

by gaiagirl in

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the watchtower sunday made a claim to the effect that when science conflicts with the bible, the bible has always been proven to be correct.

if i had been there, i would have asked "could you provide some specific examples"?.

i'm thinking that reality is actually the other way, science always disproves the bible.

justhuman

The fact the earth was round it was also known fact by the Ancient Greeks at least 2500 years ago. Not to mention the Orpheas Hymns, that they describe in accuracy celestial phenomena and an Earth with 2 seasons only, and dating back 10,500 years. Also a ancient type of computer showing celestial plannets in connection with the Earths Orbit. Scientist are trying hard to solve how did this worked.It was found in an ancient Greco/roman ship in Kithira dating 2100 B.C.

And one small detail. The dark ages was for the West Europe. In East Europe and in the Capitol of the Romanae Empire-New Rome (known as Byzantine)Constantinoupole, dark ages never existed, since science literature, and knowledge never ceased. It ended only with the fall of the Capital by the Othoman Turks in 1453 A.D. While in the West people suffered from the Catholic Church, Inquizition, and other political problems, in the East was a continuation of the Creco/roman civilazation. Eventually the destruction of Constantinoupole led most of the scientists and scholars to escape in West Europe.As a result new era began for Europe.

Also another small detail. When the Turkish pirate Pirei- Reis was captured he had ancient maps that has stolen from Romanae ship. Guess what? Those maps they were copy of a much older maps and it was the Earth's landscape as we know it today. With only one small detail!!! The ice in the Artic and Antartic wasn't there!!! Scientists examine the mass of the land in the Poles and it matches perfectly with the maps of the Greeks. Only by a satelite those map could have been created with the accuracy of todays technological means.

There are ancient civilazations much more advance than the Hebrew, like the Egyptians, Sumerians, Greek. Comparing what those civilazations gave to mankind(literature, mathematics, Medics) the Hebrew gave nothing. And in fact it was through the Greek civilazation that Chrisianity was spread to the world. So it would be nice if the WT realize the wrong path that they are into, and be more open minded before the shop called WT close for good...

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Ever have a paranormal event in your life, please share?

by free2beme in

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friends

i am one who believes strongly in the spirit realm, paranormal activity, etc.

even with such a strong belief, i am often told by skeptics that such things are foolish and nonsense.

while i accept people have the right to feel however they want, i have often shared stories with people that are hard to explain with logic and find others have events like this too.

justhuman

I would say AB-NORMAL... the Watchtower Society

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The Hope For Our Dying Home-Earth...An Inconvenient Truth

by justhuman in

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yesterday it was the day of the global inviroment.

as i walked to the street going to work, the main square of the capitol was filled with small children and their teachers with huge paintings, songs, art work with recycled elements demanding a cleaner plannet.

when the old generation will pass those little ones that will take in charge with all the inviromental education they had they will go for a better world.i'm sure about it, you could see it in their small eyes.

justhuman

I have seen some good posts on this one...

1.Our earth is in danger due to human activities, and pollution. There are many alternative resources that we can use. Solar energy, Wind enegy, Thermal energy just to name a few. Countries like the Scandinavians are champions in the alternative energy solutions. A village in Norway is based upons Solar and Wind energy. We can do a lot, and only by educating our selves we will do a lot. For instance is U.S. the automobile production companies are the worst in the world regarding pollution( 6 cylinders and 8 cylinders are not quite enviromental friendly) while on the other hand in Europe and Japan they have cars with low pollution rate and hybrid cars.

2. The rate of the ice melting it is much more faster than the last 10,500 when the last age finished due to human activity. Indeed the earth has always gone through changes all those millions years, but al least we have to take care of our only home in this universe and stop acting with ignorance and arrogance

3. Most of the problems is caused by the multi-national Oil companies. We have so many alternative energy solutions by their goal for more money has ruined the earth. Only if we the citizens of the World stand up and start demand a cleaner world FOR OUR CHILDREN we will managed to have a better place to live. If we buy their 8 cylinder cars, and depend upon their oil for sure they will keep on doing this. I my self started the process for an inviromental attitude. I have order an electric car(no pollution at all) and it will be charged upon solar energy. I start to design a house fully inviromental with solar and wind energy so I will produce my own green electricity. There are so much we could do believe me. It is all a matter of will

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John 1:1 and Watchtower Society

by UnDisfellowshipped in

god, in his nature, is eternal, immortal, and almighty.

how can he share in that same nature and still not be almighty, eternal, or immortal?.

god is almighty, eternal, and immortal because of his nature, because of who and what he is, his essence.

justhuman

The Greek text it says very clearly:" En arxi in o Logos kai o Logos in para to Theo, kai Theos esti o logos" In the begining was the Word and the Word was with God, and God was the Word

No Greek scolar, and most of all none of the Early Greek Apostolic Church Fathers, like Saint Athanasius who finalize the Biblical Canon and dealed with the Arian heretic view of Trinity agrees with the WT. The only one that does agree with them is those who support the Arian heresy.

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When has Science Ever been proven wrong by the Bible?

by gaiagirl in

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the watchtower sunday made a claim to the effect that when science conflicts with the bible, the bible has always been proven to be correct.

if i had been there, i would have asked "could you provide some specific examples"?.

i'm thinking that reality is actually the other way, science always disproves the bible.

justhuman

Some tips regarding the Genesis acount that the WT does not like to comment:

In the Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures it says that "God made things good" or (lian kalos) that means that they weren't perfect. There is a difference from perfect and good. But WT applies it as perfect.

Adam and Eve are our spiritual parents and the account of Genesis discribes the gift of the Soul to humans by God. We have human history going back far more than the creation of Adam, that was about 7000 years ago.

Also there are more questions to stupid WT understanding that need to be answered:

1.If God created perfect wold why we have animals and reptiles that are flesh eating? If you look at the history of Dinosaurus most of them they were violent and flesh eating reptiles. Why God would create such violence creatures?

2.If the animals at Eden were peaceful why again we have animals that are eating flesh(lions, tigers, sharks, just to name af few)

WT istead of accepting the FACT of graduate Evolution ignores those facts and they are only fooling their selfs

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To ex-JW's who became real "Christians"

by startingover in

i have a question.. what is your belief now regarding hell?

a place of torment?

the grave?

justhuman

Sorry, but they are connected...anyhow the word kolasis in Greek means I suffer. It has to do with a personal situation. I recall when my mother was raized Catholic(was in Catholic school) and the reasons my grandfather left the RC was the Hell and purgatory dogma. As I read in this post the Catholics explain Hell(Kolasis)like the Orthodox do. I don't know when they change it but if they did is good. They are closer to the Apostolic Church

Here is a very nice explaination of the subject

http://www.oodegr.com/english/theos/pyr_fws1.htm

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To ex-JW's who became real "Christians"

by startingover in

i have a question.. what is your belief now regarding hell?

a place of torment?

the grave?

justhuman

When the Church(Old Rome and New Rome) was united with communion the Christian dogma was one. The first signs of the schisma started in the 7th century A.D It ended up 1054 A.D when 3 cardinals entered to the Temple of Saint Sofia in Constantinoupole and they let a letter denouncing the New Rome and the Bishop.The last Orthodox Pope resigned 1009, After that German Popes replace the Romans. The real issue of the schisma was political games of the Franks. The Catholic Church fallen into serious mistakes and locked into a specific theological understanding of things. While the scientific discoveries of Galileo and Copernicus threaten the Catholic Power and metaphysic understanding and as a result they acted violently with the Inquisition.

While in the New Rome they were schools, hospitals, univercities, science, all taken and preserved from the Classical Athens and Hellenic/Roman civilazation.The Church wasn't involved on those matters, on the contrary to what happened to the West Rome.

Pope Leo 809 A.D knew that the Franks wanted to invate the Roman Church, so he wrote the Symbol of Faith in silver plates inside the Saint's Peter Temple and at the end He wrote: HAEC LEO POSUI AMORE ET CAUTELA ORTHODOXAE FIDEI. Translated "I Leo set this plate for the love and protection of Orthodoxy". He resisted strongly regarding the Filioque issue that the Franks tried to inserted.

So BurnTheShips the Schisma created by the Franks turned the Catholic Church way from the Teachings of the Apostolic Church. Simple as that and the only way for the Church to be united like before the Catholic's must look for those Teachings and accept them.

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Aug 15-08 Study WT - More evil apostates!

by still_in74 in

well i just got the aug 15 study edition.

i flipped through it for about 10 seconds and found the word apostate.

big surprise.

justhuman

Why does the WT tell us what we "evil" apostates are saying. Perhaps it will be nice for them to examine the book "Crisis of Conscious" in their Sunday study. Sure the "brothers and sisters" will see what the hell did "evil Ray Franz" wrote in that Book. After finishing that book they can examine also "Apocalypse Delayed" by Penton, and Hasan's "Combating Mind Control"...

But I guess after "examining" Crisis..they wan't be any JW's to examine the other books....

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my inactive family hates that I researched why the jws are wrong

by sosad in

they don't want to hear it, they think i am being hurtful having so many books about cults, jws in particular etc etc.

i never talk about it but they saw my bookshelves in my office during a recent visit and are besides themselves.

they want to know where the anit catholic literature is - (my husband and kids are catholic, i am not).

justhuman

Strange attitude for innactive ones???