Posts by nmthinker

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I don't like the person i am becoming...

by SpunkedTeen in

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i have not been active here lately just lurking mostly but i have no one to talk to and i need some help i guess.i started working out and became friends with my personal trainer(we went to school together).i started going out with him(lying to my mother about what i was doing,another thing to add to the list of lies,it's becoming too easy!

) and i notice i'm slowly becoming the worldy people that the jw's described.i've become very selfish and rude and very apathetic towards everything and everyone.i always thought the values that jw's taught were really good.if i cut ties with the only friend i have now , i would probably slip into a deep depression and i that is something that i want to avoid at all costs.i start university in january and my plan was to stick it out in the organisation until i got my degree and became fully independant but as of late a elder told me i am being considered to become a m.s and told me what i need to work on and since then the other elders have been nagging me to work on the same things.i'm trying to rid my self of my 'priveleges' in the cong but nothings working...if anyone has experienced a similar situation what advice would you give?

, oh and my mom was always super into the religion having been a pioneer and bethel worker for years but we went to the regional convention two weeks ago and now she is even more exasperating (for example a sister asked my why i was 19 years old and not a ms or serving at bethel yet, which is fine i've learnt how to deal with these questions but when i told my mother whom has always been content with me just being in the religion and never pushed me towards anything asked me if i was happy with what i was and if i would not be happier at bethel or regular pioneering.

nmthinker

Giles Gray is right. It took me a short time to wake up but a much longer time to be accepting of the fact that I wasn't a witness anymore. Since I was born in "the truth" I had internalized all the negative things they say about worldly people and those who leave the organization.

Eventually you come to accept that we are all just people and we ourselves are ultimately accountable for the decisions we make in life. IMO witnesses don't hold themselves accountable but focus on their status in the religion and in the eyes of others. This is why it is so hard for people to leave the organization for good.

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CBS News, New Discovery, JWs love Archaeology

by pleaseresearch in

a sister i know posted the below on her facebook page.

there is a video to go with it, seems really interesting.

makes me laugh in the comment section about how now this validates the bible etc.... yet sadly the jws will not accept archaeology that proves the fall of jerusalem in 587 bc.

nmthinker

I think this is the article you meant to link

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/israel/2016/september/israeli-archaeologists-king-hezekiah-really-did-destroy-idols

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"Coping with Shunning" by Barbara Anderson

by AndersonsInfo in

http://watchtowerdocuments.org/coping-with-shunning/.

by barbara anderson.

when my husband and i left the religion of jehovah’s witnesses (jws), we, like countless others, lost family members and friends because of the witnesses shunning doctrine.

nmthinker

Thanks Barbara. Good reminder to not be angry with my mom for her shunning me and my sister. She is doing it because she thinks it is God's will and without doing it the whole belief system will fall like a house of cards. She's too old to start over I think.

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IBSA (Watchtower UK) property portfolio for sale

by betterdaze in

behold: ibsaproperty.com“the extensive ibsa property portfolio in north london is now being brought to the market.”ibsa moved to the leafy london suburbs of mill hill in the late 1950’s.

since then, expansion has required the acquisition of further properties in the immediate area, and in some cases further beyond.

in recent years, relocation to a single site which would offer greater economy of operation became more than a matter of interest, and in 2014 a suitable site in chelmsford, essex was purchased.

nmthinker

Look at those apartments, looks like they were freshly renovated before being put of for sale.

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The 1914 doctrine: How long it will last?

by opusdei1972 in

one hundred years have passed and the society still supports this lie, which of course, is the basis of their other lies, like that of the unfaithful and not discreet slave appointed in 1919. however, i wonder, what will happen after 50 years, when the overlapped generation will pass?.

and if you want, what will happen with this religion in 2100?, could it survive with the same lie??

?.

nmthinker

They won't get rid of 1914 any time soon. This is in the Nov 2016 WT Study edition. There have also been recent WT studies where the first sentence in the article treats 1914 as a proven fact.

Malachi 3:1-3 describes the time —from 1914 to early 1919—when the anointed “sons of Levi” would undergo a period of refinement. (Read.)

During that time, Jehovah God, “the true Lord,” accompanied by Jesus Christ, “the messenger of the covenant,” came to the spiritual temple to inspect those serving there. After receiving needed discipline, Jehovah’s cleansed people were ready to take up a further assign- ment of service. In 1919, a “faithful and discreet slave” was appointed to provide spiritual food to the household of faith. (Matt. 24:45) God’s people were now free of the influence of Babylon the Great. Since that time, by Jehovah’s un- deserved kindness, his people have con- stantly been growing in knowledge of God’s will and in love for their heavenly Father. How grateful they are for his blessing![1]

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The elusive song 151 makes an appearance.

by SadElder in

the missing song 151 now titled "the revealing of god's sons" shows up with the september edition of tv.jw.

no words or score on the jw page yet.

can't say that it sounds any different than any of the other songs they produce now.

nmthinker

neat blue dog12 hours ago

Its related to the new light to be announced at the annual meeting next month. God's anointed "sons" are going to be 'revealed' to be all Christians, not just 144,000.

We can only hope, since this would wake up many thousands

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Can baptism be considered a legal verbal agreement?

by StarTrekAngel in

based on the requirements set forth and the questions answered at the end.

i believe this question has been asked before.

the fact that you can only be expelled after having been put under this oath of allegiance and that you have witnesses to you making this agreement ( i remember my name was shout to the crowd when i entered the pool ).. if it can be considered so, would there be a legal ground to say minors can not enter this agreement?.

nmthinker

Legality has nothing to do with it. WTBS makes the rules and decides who gets to play and how.

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Low Day For Me Today

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

it's been about 4 or 5 weeks since i was disfellowshipped.

so far it's been easy, i enjoyed being left alone, no one bothering me, no one telling me i need to do more, need to reach out, questioning why i didnt go on the ministry, and the fact that my ex-wifes family cant talk to me even if they wanted to.

nmthinker

pale.emperor, they don't want you around, I don't know why you keep going back for more punishment. Move on with your life and start living life as a man.

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Are they either leaving or going full on 'cult mode'? No quarter.

by punkofnice in

it might just be me imagining things.. i hear things from my jw spies.. from all that's being said, it seems to me that the rank and file(tm), are either waking up to the scam and fading/leaving.

they are going full on 'cult mode' and acting like 'spiritual police'.. is it just me and my imagination?

have others noticed this?.

nmthinker

Phats if you know your bible then it is easy to pick apart any of the JW teachings. The bible is not so complicated it cannot be read by the common man. I suggest you get a decent bible translation (I like the NIV) and start reading on your own. I like the Beroean Pickets site for reasoning on the scriptures on many topics - meletivivlon.com

Good luck!

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Single Sisters Over A Certain Age Group Getting A Bad Rap

by HiddlesWife in

i'm new here; one of my relatives was a member on this forum a few years ago and told me about it.

anyways, as a sister who has been in the org since childhood and now in her late 40's (plus as a woman of color), i have noticed that a number of brothers have an ageist attitude.

they are very accepting of young women under 26 and rejecting women over that age, particularly those in their 30's and over.. is this an unspoken mindset from wthq (specifically from bethel), or is it that quite a number of males (sorry, i'm not sexist here) have this type of mentality?

nmthinker

There are about twice as many sisters as brothers in the org. Because of this brothers are able to marry way out of their league in the org.

http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/religious-tradition/jehovahs-witness/#demographic-information