Can my baptism be annulled?? I can lie and say I was smoking weed or idk sleeping around..,but seeing how I was only 12 it might not be believable...I did lie a lot as a kid & that's an über sin according to the bible.,or is the poster just a troll?
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Watchtower Annulled My Baptism
by RICHT incontrary to popular belief you can have your baptism annulled as i did by my local elders after my judicial hearing.. the watchtower of 1964 page 126 first paragraph clearly states that anyone that was committing a gross sin before, during and after their baptism is void.
in order to get right with the lord you would need to be re-baptised.
err no thanks, i'm not a believer!!!!.
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JWs Excited Trump Won
by LaurenM ini am incredibly disturbed.
many of the jws i'm still friends with on facebook are incredibly excited that trump won the american presidential race, posting, "yay!
i'm so happy!
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I am incredibly disturbed. Many of the JWs I'm still friends with on Facebook are incredibly excited that Trump won the American presidential race, posting, "Yay! I'm so happy! The end is near! The great tribulation is about to happen! Woohoo!" (essentially). It literally makes me sick to see them celebrating and looking forward to the immanent deaths of 99% of humanity. Is this going to make me run back to "Jehovah"? No. Even if the world does end and Trump starts a nuclear war, I rather die having lived this past year than to have died a JW.
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Question for Christians: What Religion are You Now?
by LaurenM ini know many on here are atheist.
but for the christians on here...what religion are you now that you are no longer a jw?
i'm still undecided as to whether i believe in god.
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I know many on here are Atheist. But for the Christians on here...what religion are you now that you are no longer a JW? I'm still undecided as to whether I believe in God. I have been doing a lot of research on evolution. However, I want to delve into creationism as well to see what makes the most sense to me. My ideal christian religion would not promote a strict, literal interpretation of the bible...but would view it as a loose reflection of God (perhaps mis-translated and mis-adapted to fit the ideals of the time period). Like, I will always believe that God (if he were real) would still accept those who were homosexual, were Muslim or Buddhist or whatever, as long as they were GOOD PEOPLE and don't purposefully hurt others without apology. Does any christian-based religion teach this? What are the base principles of whatever religion you are involved in?
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I'm Going to Break Up with My Boyfriend Today
by LaurenM inso like the title suggests, i'm going to break up with my boyfriend today.
it's for several reasons, but mostly because i'm not prepared for a relationship.
i need to grow and learn what it's like to be me now that i'm not a jw and learn how to love myself so i don't make the person i am with miserable.
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@berrygerry Wow all of the qualities they associate with a high control group/cult match up with JW-world exactly! And I think I've felt many of the effects that they list too...I've always thought it seemed..idk, weak to go to see a therapist..I suppose that comes from the idea that "the society" and "Jehovah" is all that you need to cope with your problems lol...but I think it would actually be a good idea to do so & I'll have to look into getting that book to.
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I'm Going to Break Up with My Boyfriend Today
by LaurenM inso like the title suggests, i'm going to break up with my boyfriend today.
it's for several reasons, but mostly because i'm not prepared for a relationship.
i need to grow and learn what it's like to be me now that i'm not a jw and learn how to love myself so i don't make the person i am with miserable.
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@Xanthippe I love your eloquent words! Those do sound like wonderful things to try being alone (: and like the other commenters said, I never really thought about how it might be even harder for those who DO have wives/husbands and kids vs. those who don't...I just wish my parents weren't in this stupid cult, but what can you do
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I'm Going to Break Up with My Boyfriend Today
by LaurenM inso like the title suggests, i'm going to break up with my boyfriend today.
it's for several reasons, but mostly because i'm not prepared for a relationship.
i need to grow and learn what it's like to be me now that i'm not a jw and learn how to love myself so i don't make the person i am with miserable.
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So like the title suggests, I'm going to break up with my boyfriend today. It's for several reasons, but mostly because I'm not prepared for a relationship. I need to grow and learn what it's like to be me now that I'm not a JW and learn how to love myself so I don't make the person I am with miserable.
Unfortunately, I haven't been fading well. Between adding my new "worldly" friends on Facebook (some of whom are gay) and liking and commenting on posts that I "shouldn't" (politics, gay rights, etc.) I think it's become obvious to my JW "friends" that something is up. (I should have Unfriended them but now it's too late). Also, my dad saw a book on Buddhism in my car.
So, soon it may all catch up to me and I will loose my parents and when that happens I will be entirely alone with absolutely no one in the world who cares about me deeply and that makes me very very sad
So my question to you is how do you deal with the inevitable lonliness that comes from having almost no family or anyone who loves you? I don't want a new relationship right now and I have made some new friends, but none that care for me deeply and its so scary being entirely alone. How do you cope?
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Cold war on homefront!
by LifesNotOver ina few months back i let it be known to my husband that i was no longer interested in anything jw related.
when he took it to the elders, without actually divulging anything that might get me disfellowshipped like apostasy - well, he just basically told them i was all depressed and discouraged and everything and that i didn't want to be contacted by the elders about it.
i don't know what he actually told them, word for word, or what they actually said to him word for word, but he told me they told him not to do anything spiritual with me at home anymore - no bible study, praying, daily text, meetings via phone, jw broadcasting, discussions, etc.
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You say that "it feels now like the only thing we had in common was our being in the org together"...but then you seem to indicate that you were married before you were baptized...So perhaps you can revisit what made you fall in love before you (presumably) became JWs. You must've had something that sparked your love that made you get baptized in the first place :) Good luck!
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Dec 2016 study edition 'Setting your mind on the spirit.' WTF?
by Esse quam videri inso the study article 'setting your mind on the spirit means life and peace.
' at paragraph 9 a little pictorial lecture for anyone setting their minds on the flesh.
brother fleshly minded talking about having a sailboat.
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I don't get the logic...if you don't do what you want to do now, you will be rewarded by being able to do that very same thing later...but if and only if certain stipulations are met (despite the fact that you could very well do it now if you don't pay any mind to this logic)..huh?
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Jehovah Created Animal "Kinds" - The Numbers Don't Match Up?
by LaurenM in1. the creation story taken literally: god created all "kinds".
from jw.org: what is a kind?
: the biblical “kinds” seem to constitute divisions of life-forms wherein each division allows for cross-fertility within its limits.
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1. The Creation Story Taken Literally: God Created All "Kinds"
From JW.org: What is a Kind?: The Biblical “kinds” seem to constitute divisions of life-forms wherein each division allows for cross-fertility within its limits. If so, then the boundary between “kinds” is to be drawn at the point where fertilization ceases to occur...There is no support for theories maintaining that new “kinds” have been formed since the creation period.
COD.edu: The textbook definition of species is that it is a group of organisms which can interbreed and produce fertile offspring. So humans of all races are the same species, but horses and donkeys aren't. [Almost verbatim the JW definition of "Kind"..weird - and there are over a million documented species]
How Many Kinds Are There? JW answer: Whereas specific created “kinds” may number only in the hundreds, there are many more varieties of animals and plants on the earth.
What does modern science say? It is impossible to breed between different taxonomic families. How many taxonomic families are there? A biology professor would say that there are (conservatively) around 20,000 families. In fact, The Plant List alone has 642 families listed: http://www.theplantlist.org/1.1/about/#changes. That's not including Animals, Protists, Fungi, Archaebacteria, Eubacteria, which were all purportedly created by God...the number far exceeds "hundreds".
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People hate God?
by looter init is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.
like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.
i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.
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Yes, we should all LOVE God!!!
A God who condones mass murder...of even children (unless, of course, she's a pretty little virgin):
Deuteronomy 2:33-34 King James Version (KJV)
33 And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:
Numbers 31:17-18New International Version (NIV)
17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Of course, anyone who doesn't believe in said god (namely, 4.9 BILLION people) deserves to DIE
Matt 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
I love the idea of loving a God who kills SO many people!
gen·o·cide
noun
the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation. (or religion)
synonyms:
mass murder, mass homicide, massacre; More
Also, family does not matter to God
"Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." Matt 10:21
And I love that God gives us the free will to think what we want (even though he will kill us if we think in a way he doesn't want us to think).
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
But it’s so hard loving God, it’s even hard for Christians themselves not to be killed by him: Homosexuals (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death" - - along with gossips, boasters, and disobedient children. Romans 1:31-32
Like you, I really don't understand why anyone WOULDN'T love God! There are so many reasons I didn't even put on here!