being a jehovah witness, did you feel obliged to have a 4 door car?
once i bought a 2 door car, and everyone was looking at me as if i commited a crime.
i then reasoned with them saying, "didn't jesus send his deciples by groups of 2?".
LOL it's the old service car question. Yep, I got nailed on that one. I bought a two-door Eagle Talon with a stick and a sunroof and got the "Well, that's not a very appropriate car for service" speech (to which I retorted "Well, that's good, because I have no intention of driving it in service."), along with the "women who drive fast cars are as fast as the cars they drive" speech.
So I ditched the org and kept the car.It was the best trade I ever made.
was it natural for you to speak in public, either from door to door, or making talks at the hall.
for some, it was a real scarry thing to speak in front of a group.
was that a big load off your back when you quit going to the meetings?
Funny you should post that question. I'm surfing here right now trying to avoid working on my speech for communications class. I haven't so much as an outline started, and I have to give my speech Tuesday!
I used to be pretty good giving talks at the hall, so I don't know what happened. Maybe it's because I'm no longer just hand all of the resources to work my talk out with. I actually have to find them myself.AAKK! It's 25 percent of my grade. How nerve wracking.It's not the delivery that scares me, it's compiling the information and coming up with my visuals.
are we all ready for christmas?!!
so, who here buys 'real' trees and who has the fake?
this will be our 4th christmas.
I love the new fake trees with the fiber optic lights, but the live tree won hands-down for my family's first Christmas. We are going to cut a tree off from a relative's property. I'm not sure what kind we'll end up with-probably spruce. I wonder what tamarack would look like, if it would hold up under the weight of decorations. We are also going to make cedar wreaths(has anyone ever had a cedar Christmas tree before?)
The only thing I hate about live trees is that they only last about two weeks when you have wood heat, so we can't put one up until mid-December.
this is a follow up thread to my previous thread entitled "should the boyfriend sleep over" .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35891&site=3.
its been a couple of months since i threw out the question about what you all thought about my 17 year old daughter's boyfriend sleeping over.
Beck,
I know what you mean. My daughter just married a sweetheart of a guy a couple of months ago. She's only 18 and in her first year of college, but what the hay, she's going to do what she wants, and she couldn't have picked a nicer guy.I'm not going to spend my time worrying about what's going to happen five years down the road, I'd rather enjoy watching them find happiness with each other now. Que Sera, Sera like the song says.
I'm more worried about my dad. I just love my step mom to pieces, and my dad is not one to keep a marriage together. I've told everyone that if they break up, my step mom gets custody of me:)
My grandparents got married when my grandma was seventeen, and they've been together for seventy years! She has the same worries about spouses breaking up that we do, though. But she maintained strong ties with my mother even after my parents split, so it can be done.
(And hey, what's the matter with the back seat, anyway;0 Just "park that car well outta sight."hehheh)
i feel very happy and proud of myself as i went to the shop and brought my very first christmas cd the other day!.
i have been playing it today.. very cool!
i love singing along to the tunes.. not that i can sing!.
the more i listen to the religion argument the more atheist i become.
their are still some things that are hard to explain and most simply doesnt need explaining who cares?
just because we dont know the explanation doesnt mean there isnt one!.
I've had unexplained events occur in my life-one occured recently, right around the time I chose to send in my DA letter, but I wouldn't call it a demon story.I can't really say whether or not it was a figment of my imagination, but at any rate, it left me comforted, not terrrified.
I have, however, had an experience pre-JW times with a seance that was interesting.
Being so newly out of the org, I've been kind of suspending my judgement on everything until my head is a little clearer and I'm a little more focused.
Wow, Bendrr, those gravesites are beautiful. If I wasn't going to be cremated, I'd like a site like that.I used to love to go to graveyards when I was younger. They are such peaceful places. I never met any ghosts, though.
over the years i have had several collections, ranging from louisiana bottles, (this collection was stolen); books relating to la.
which i donated to a library; books by or about jws, which i gave to another library; a stamp collection, which is at my sister's house.
my florida related stamps are now on exhibit at the state library of florida.
I collect songs with the word crazy in them, or that portray some sort of off the wall behavior in honor of my in-laws who told most of the community I live in that I am crazy.
Let's see, there's "Comfortably Numb" by Pink Floyd, "Crazy" by Aerosmith, "The Dark Side of the Moon", that country song "Crazy"...can't remember them all at the moment.They're coming to take me away, haha, they're coming to take me away hehe, to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time.....
I also collect creepy stuffed animals. I have a bat, a snake, a manta, a spider, the Phantom of the Opera and Quasi Moto (but I guess they're not animals, technically speaking). My shark got chewed to bits by my dog, though.
Oh, and I collect chicken statues, but they have to be either realistic or unique looking, not run of the mill birds.
sometimes, the gender of a poster is relatively easy to deduce due to their style of posting, and, dare i say it, their choice of vocabulatory.
but sometimes it is difficult to know if you are "talking" to a man or a woman (or homosexual).
ok, right away, i hear protests of "what the heck does it matter?
Beer and boob appreciation and a porn collection define masculinity???:)
let me say first of all, i have never been a big fan of halloween.
the witches, monsters, etc, never appealed to me.. last night, my family and i were invited to a friend of a friends house for food and trick or treating.
my first inclination, was to find a way to weasel out of it.
A belated Happy Halloween, Freedom!
My kids celebrated their first Halloween this year, also. We went trick or treating with their cousins, then went over to their house and had spaghetti and watched Halloween shows on t.v. They were so excited about Halloween, they went to bed early Wednesday night on their own volition so they would be rested up:)They had an absolute blast dressing up and going from house to house.They were so exhausted by all of the excitement, they fell asleep by 9:30.
My youngest thought we should go trick or treat our former book study conductor-he came up with that one on his own, the little prankster:)
I'm thirty-something, and I dressed up as a gothic princess while accompanying my kids trick or treating.My costume was quite a hit. I got some "evil eyes" and dissaproving looks from some old church lady types(I think it was just my genre choice, though, not the fact that I was dressed up. The local religious organizations just did a newspaper ad about witches-hehe), but most people thought it was cool that I was in the Halloween spirit, and some even tried to get me to take candy, which I politely declined.I even talked my sister into dressing up, and she hadn't done so since she was fifteen.Of course, everyone loved her--she was a Rennaisance princess.Most of the adults handing out candy at the doors were dressed up, also.
I stopped at the store on the way home to get some groceries, and got some neat reactions. One guy commented on my costume, and said that he was going to have some fun, too.He told his significant other that they were going to go home and get dressed up and go out, because it was high time they started enjoying their lives again.
So next year, why don't you give it a try, Freedom?It's really great that you are going to do things differently for your kids, but you can do more than just survive, too:) The WTS has this dumb old adage that when you leave the org, you just wither up and either become immoral, evil and happy until you are obliterated at armageddon, or downright depressed until you return to mama tower.It's just not that black and white, though.Why don't you start planning your costume now--heck, with a whole year to plan, it should be pretty awesome. I encourage you to be a Thriver, instead of just a survivor ( although {{{{Freedom}}}}}, I understand the bittersweetness of your discovery. I celebrated Halloween when I was a kid, yet denied my own children for years for "their own good". Talk about regrets!).
my daughter was paired up with a boy from our kingdom hall, at school this week.
they have a research paper that they have to do together.
now that this research paper has come up, the boy told my daughter that he'd call her because she isn't allowed to call their home.
Hi Jurs,
As much as it hurts, consider yourself lucky! I DAd last month, and it's been interesting here. After years of receiving no spiritual help for myself and my children from the elders ( husband was nonwitness), one suddenly decided when I left to make a concerted effort to "help" my kids. Well, not all of them. He wants nothing to do with my daughter, just my sons. The odd part is, this is the elder that was so sure, due to gossip by my nonwitness in-laws, that I had some "secret sin" I was covering up.He approached my husband to ask if he could study with the boys. Quite frankly, I think he continues to have zero interest in my kids, but alot of interest in attempting to wield control over my life, this time using my kids. And they say that witnesses don't attempt to break up families!! Needless to say, the kids will not be studying while they live under our roof. None of them seem to have any desire to have anything to do with the witnesses, anyway. Well, except for my youngest, who wanted to go trick or treat this very elder(he came up with that one on his own out of the blue):)
I would ask for a new study partner for your child asap.
As far as the reactions of excongregation members, I've had the same mixed reaction. Right after it was announced that I DAd, I think I ran into nearly every member of my former hal out in public.Some were stern and gave nasty dirty looks, some looked sad, some momentarily forgot and said hello or waved and were mortified. I feel sorry for them all, except for those who wielded their position in a hurtful manner. I'm glad they can no longer talk to me.
