Both believe they`re fighting a `Holy War`
Both don`t hesitate to ask their followers to throw away their lives.
Posts by JWD
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The Taliban and The Watchtower
by JWD init`s amazing the unusual bed-fellows one finds from time to time.. it seems that certain traits know no national boundaries.
while watching the news the other day men with turbans living in afganistan.
began to resemble men with suits dwelling in brooklyn.
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Org. Re-orging in JAPAN
by JWD infor those of you who haven`t been following it,the wts is in a downward spiral here in japan.fs hours are down,memorial attendance.
is down,pioneers are down,studies are down,donations are down,number.
of congregations is down and the number of publishers continues to.
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The Sep. 2001 KM made it official. It stated that JWs are to go back
to df`d and da`s and ask them if they wouldn`t like to get back on the
boat with God`s org. It`s become almost impossible to find new recruits here in Japan, so the WT is desparate to help bump-up the
figures. Thus `recycling`.
BTW the number of publishers was down AGAIN in the Sept. report.JWD
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The Taliban and The Watchtower
by JWD init`s amazing the unusual bed-fellows one finds from time to time.. it seems that certain traits know no national boundaries.
while watching the news the other day men with turbans living in afganistan.
began to resemble men with suits dwelling in brooklyn.
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JWD
It`s amazing the unusual bed-fellows one finds from time to time.
It seems that certain traits know no national boundaries. While watching the news the other day men with turbans living in Afganistan
began to resemble men with suits dwelling in Brooklyn. You might have
to squint a little bit to see the resemblance but try and see if you
can see what I saw.As to the Talibans and the leaders of the Watchtower:
Both suppress information
Both discourage higher education
Both rejoice at the death of their `enemy`
Both keep women in a low place in society
Both keep their followers poor
Both have all their people wearing the same style clothes!
Both like making lots of petty rules
Both have their own `theocratic police force`
Both have a thing about beards (Taliban want em on/ WT wants em off)
Both have a thing about New York!
Both hate the trinityAny other common traits I might have missed? JWD
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More Suicides
by JWD inwithin the past week a couple was found dead in their home here in.
southern osaka japan.the couple was in their 50`s and the husband was.
the elder in a congregation in a city named kishiwada.the husband.
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I agree that the idea of df-ing someone after he died is pretty crazy. The man`s brother,who is not a JW, talked to the wife and was
told he died in an `accident`. She continued with that lie until the
proper JW funeral was done. The brother then went to the police who
found the body and was told that there was no doubt that it was suicide. Naturally the wife knew that as well. The brother happened to be writing a book at the time about his experiences returning to Japan after living abroad for over 10 years. He included a chapter telling about the shock he experienced after coming back to Japan and having his younger brother commit suicide. He went into a little detail about the religion his JW brother was involved in and how it was somewhat different from JWs in the US. That was 2 or 3 years ago. This past Fall I met an elder who knew former elder `Okamoto` fairly well.When I related the incident he immediately knew about it and said
that after his death, it was announced that he was df-ed.The elder
thought it very odd and couldn`t figure out the reasoning behind
such a step. I suggested that it might be due to the fact that the
book written by his older brother exposed that it had been suicide
not an accident. Thus I consider it to be credible info. JWD -
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More Suicides
by JWD inwithin the past week a couple was found dead in their home here in.
southern osaka japan.the couple was in their 50`s and the husband was.
the elder in a congregation in a city named kishiwada.the husband.
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JWD
Funerals are not held at the KH. JWs are not to attend the funeral
(some may not strictly adhere to that). It`s likely that in this case
either non-JW relatives will handle the funeral or they will simply
go to the crematorium and dispose of the ashes afterwards.
I don`t yet know the name of the congregation, but I can get it and
will let you know.
In one other case I refered to where an elder jumped to his death,
the fact that it was a suicide was kept under wraps by his JW wife
and the funeral was held in regular JW fashion. However, the elder`s
brother is a non-JW and wrote a book which included a referance to
the fact that his JW brother commited suicide. Shortly after the book
came out, the dead brother was DFed !!! That`s gotta be a first!
The elder`s name was Mr. Okamoto and he was in Ikeda City in northern Osaka.
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More Suicides
by JWD inwithin the past week a couple was found dead in their home here in.
southern osaka japan.the couple was in their 50`s and the husband was.
the elder in a congregation in a city named kishiwada.the husband.
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JWD
There is less stigma associated with suicide in Japan. Yet, it is
viewed as a last resort. As far as I know there are not many other
religious `leaders` in other religions commiting suicide. And since
the JWs portray themselves as `the happiest people in the world`,it
doesn`t seem consistent with that image.JWD
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More Suicides
by JWD inwithin the past week a couple was found dead in their home here in.
southern osaka japan.the couple was in their 50`s and the husband was.
the elder in a congregation in a city named kishiwada.the husband.
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Within the past week a couple was found dead in their home here in
Southern Osaka Japan.The couple was in their 50`s and the husband was
the elder in a congregation in a city named Kishiwada.The husband
was found laying in his `futon` and his wife had hung herself next to
him. They had both commited suicide. This is the most recent suicide
among JW elders here in Japan. I personally know of two other cases
of elders commiting suicide and have heard from reliable sources of
an additional two cases.A sister who knew this particular elder says
that he was a fairly soft-spoken gentle person. The possible reason
for their chosing suicide isn`t yet apparent. But, it could be do to
extreme stress or the possibility of him be removed in order to be
replaced by a younger man. That`s merely speculation, but the trend
here is to train young `Storm Troupers` at the MTC and then send them
out to help prop up sagging numbers in non-productive congregations.Another elder who jumped to his death in northen Osaka a few years
ago had just had his elder privaledges taken away. He ran his own
company and had for many years hired almost exclusively JWs much to
his financial detriment. The shock and shame of being made to step
down was probably quite a powerful blow.Are elders commiting suicide a common occurance in other countries?
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Org. Re-orging in JAPAN
by JWD infor those of you who haven`t been following it,the wts is in a downward spiral here in japan.fs hours are down,memorial attendance.
is down,pioneers are down,studies are down,donations are down,number.
of congregations is down and the number of publishers continues to.
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JWD
The most recent rumor is that Bethel in NY is trying to gain some
more control over the leadership here in Japan. It is even said
that perhaps they will try to replace the head of the Bethel Japan.
Only talk at this stage. If something happens, I`ll let you know. -
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Org. Re-orging in JAPAN
by JWD infor those of you who haven`t been following it,the wts is in a downward spiral here in japan.fs hours are down,memorial attendance.
is down,pioneers are down,studies are down,donations are down,number.
of congregations is down and the number of publishers continues to.
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Bringing this back to the top.
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Episodes of Craziness
by JWD inover the last ten years or so i`ve seen and heard things which when.
looked at objectively can only be termed `craziness`.however, in some.
cases these episodes of craziness might be viewed as wonderful testimonies to a strong commitment to jahovah.
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Just talked to a sister who left the org. a few years ago and heard
her experiences with WT craziness.Years back her husband wanted a second child, but the sister who
led her into the TRUTH told her the end was near and it wasn`t wise
to have another child. Thus a rift developed between her and her
husband.Later on her husband wanted to buy a house, but the sister who led
her into the TRUTH convinced her that since the end was so near it
wasn`t wise to buy a house. That created a second rift between her
and her husband.As friction continued to grow between her and her husband, he filed
for divorce and later remarried. After divorcing she found a book
exposing the WT and left the org. with her only child.Now she has one child, no husband and no house. A while ago the sister who talked her out of a second child and a house... bought a
house herself!! Craziness...!!! JWD