The hellfire thing for me is very hard to get. I think a lot of the bible is symbolic and not literal. Along with the only 'getting destroyed' thing. None of it sounds logical, and it all sounds like the Jehovah of the old testament.
Joliette
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"Do We Have to Jump From the WatchtowerÂ’s Frying Pan into Hellfire?"
by leavingwt insome may enjoy this new post at free minds by sherry jansma.
do we have to jump from the watchtowers frying pan into hellfire?.
one of the most appealing doctrines in the theology of jehovahs witnesses is their teaching on hellfire.
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I want to get baptized...but how and why should it happen?
by Joliette in...and not saying that i have to get baptized as a jehovah's witness.
i was an unbaptized publisher, but i had to step down because of some confessions i made to the elders about two years ago.
(yes, sexual confessions, i told them that i wasnt a virgin).
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Joliette
Mrs. Jones: So true, but I would like for my parents to be there when I get baptized. But I really want to do it for me. Its like a marriage to me.
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I want to get baptized...but how and why should it happen?
by Joliette in...and not saying that i have to get baptized as a jehovah's witness.
i was an unbaptized publisher, but i had to step down because of some confessions i made to the elders about two years ago.
(yes, sexual confessions, i told them that i wasnt a virgin).
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Joliette
Thanks you Chalam.
Thats what I try to tell my parents but they dont understand. I try to tell them that the WTBTS is nothing but a money making corporation, paper pushers, etc. My father says that the brothers dont make any money, except for voluntary donations, and there supported off of that, the P.O's, D.O's, the Bethel Heavies, and GB's, etc. But if you were smart enough to catch on (and my father is a pretty smart person) You'd be able to catch on to the fact that most witness are SUPPOSE to donate at the kingdom hall, assemblies, etc. And do you know truly how those donations are being spent, and what there being spent on?
I know its none of our business technically, but when they get on their soapbox and talk about how other religions abuse money, ask for money, and they straight up shit on the catholic chruch, talk about researching, looking into things more deeper, examing things, etc, why do they expect people who are JW's (amongst the rank and file) not to do the same thing. And if they do so, there apostates? Get that stuff outta here! Thats not what Jesus is about!
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Voting Today ???
by zadok777 inquestion- - - is it ok to vote if your are a jehovah's witness?
can you be disfellowship for voting?
will voting be an action to prove you have disassociated yourself.
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Joliette
I thought dubs werent suppose to vote? They changed in 1999? Can some one post the article please?
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I want to get baptized...but how and why should it happen?
by Joliette in...and not saying that i have to get baptized as a jehovah's witness.
i was an unbaptized publisher, but i had to step down because of some confessions i made to the elders about two years ago.
(yes, sexual confessions, i told them that i wasnt a virgin).
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Joliette
Thank you guys! I want to get baptized but its like signing your life away if you want to get baptized if your a dub (lol). No wonder I have relatiives in there 50's who never got baptized. Its like your signing your life away.
...and I forgot to add: I want to it to be private.
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Reporting time
by serein inhas any of u ever put a report in and added time u didnt do on it.
i have ......just so theyd stop bugging me its like every time i sat down have u put ur report in thats all they talked to me for,.
then id get ignored rest of the time,.
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Joliette
@ Heaven and Dag: Excatly!
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Reporting time
by serein inhas any of u ever put a report in and added time u didnt do on it.
i have ......just so theyd stop bugging me its like every time i sat down have u put ur report in thats all they talked to me for,.
then id get ignored rest of the time,.
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Joliette
I hate the whole reporting time thing. Just goes into that corporate mind thinking. I dont think thats what Jesus was or is all about.
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I want to get baptized...but how and why should it happen?
by Joliette in...and not saying that i have to get baptized as a jehovah's witness.
i was an unbaptized publisher, but i had to step down because of some confessions i made to the elders about two years ago.
(yes, sexual confessions, i told them that i wasnt a virgin).
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Joliette
...and not saying that I HAVE TO get baptized as a Jehovah's Witness. I was an unbaptized publisher, but I had to step down because of some confessions I made to the elders about two years ago. (Yes, sexual confessions, I told them that I wasnt a virgin). I studied with a sister, but she stopped our study, citing a scripture, saying
that I was still drinking baby's milk, and that it was time for me to start eating meat. (oh, by the way, it took everything in me not to bust out laughing).
I asked my mom how would she feel if I got baptized as a methodist or a baptist, at a chruch, etc? She said she wouldnt come to my baptism because those are false religions.
I want to get baptized, (I believe in Jesus's purpose for us) but I'm kinda hung up on the fact of WHAT COMES AFTER THAT. And I dont want to be fake, phoney, etc. I hate the idea of handing out watchtowers or awakes, I think its all about $money$, and its following what the WTBTS interruptions of the bible is, etc, so basically its all about them and their control. Although the scriptures do talk about a faithful and discreet slave/faithful and wise servant, I dont think the faithful and discreet slave (the GB) is suppose to be a multi-billion dollar corporation..
I do feel like its the right thing to get baptized, etc. (I'm 27 years old by the way. not married, no children, african-american female). And I'm starting to get funny vibes from people (especially elders) at the hall. But everyone else is so wonderful and they really believe (well most of them) thats its 'the truth.' <---(I can't stand typing that, as if everyone else is false). Its harder and harder for me to go to the meetings, knowing everything that I know. Like I said in a previous post, I feel like Judas Iscariot. I know all about the child abuse cover-ups, the U.N. Scandals, abuse of tax laws, the invisible (yet visible) clergy class, 1975, the secrets about the Governing Body, Ray Franz, finding out that the WTBTS makes $951 million dollars a year TAX FREE!!! etc. I'm doing my research, in the dawn of my research, and finding out so more, especially from visiting websites like that, etc.
My kingdom hall is right down the street from my house, five mintues away (literally). Thats why I feel so gulity. My parents go to the kingdom hall across the way from my hall. And my other two brothers have left the hall. They no longer attend meetings. But they still believe in it.
What would you guys do in my situation? I like this lutheran chruch down the street from my house. I wouldnt mind atteded services sometimes. I've been to a penecostal chruch, very intresting watching people talk in tongues. I've been to a baptist chruch too. I thought Jehovah was gonna strike me down, but nothing has happened yet.
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November is National Novel Writing Month
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Joliette
Best of luck to you. I write also so this is great!
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jw splinter groups
by bigmac injookbeard wrote:.
"they are globally united in their beliefs;.
not true there are many splinter groups and sects of the wts and they have the worse retention rates of any man made religious cult on the planet".
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Joliette
If you ever told any current and active JW that Jehovah's Witnesses have spliter groups, they'd give you a Homer Simpson or Peter Griffin look...duh!...and then run away with there awake's and watchtower's flying in the air, trying to catch them.
The dubs are in the dark ages.