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  I realized a positive outcome from my JW upbrining!

  by scarredforlife in

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  i have been on this board for over 2 years.

  one thing that i have read over and over is to find something positive in my upbrining as a jw and i have been unable to do this.

  all i have seen is negative.

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  One more positive thing, it makes you immune to cults.
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  Articles of the Watchtower seemed to Tell the Future!!

  by Darth plaugeis in

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  articles of the watchtower seemed to tell the future!!.

  remember when you would get the wt or awake and say .... look at this article how appropriate it is jehovah helping us!!!!!!!!!!.

  we started a witch thread 2 months ago........ and today a politician is in the news about being a (monty python).

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  It's very simple. If you crap enough, at least one turd will look like Elvis. If there is a million to one chance, just take a million dumps, et voila! Elvis.
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  LETTER TO ELDERS CONCERNING THE NEW ELDERS BOOK.

  by iknowall558 in

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  Perhaps these new books were not printed on a printing press but on a new spiffy "digital press", allowing the GB to insert, remove or move around certain phrases or seemingly unimportant words in the text, thereby being able to uniquely identify each individual book and elder, pinpointing who is leaking the book to teh interwebs.

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  Or did I just give them a terrible idea?
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  Studying my faith away

  by the-illuminator81 in

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  i want to introduce myself.

  i'm a 28 year old active, married jw from belgium.

  in the preceding months (i'd say starting from about march) i've been slowly losing my faith.

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  Lady Viola, it was very moving to read your post (BTW, we know each other on PC.. I live very nearby you). I have been experiencing a wide range of emotions too, ending in depression. I was also one of the few who read the proclaimers book. At the time I was amazed at how dim the light was at the beginning of the last century. I never made the connection that this was supposed to be the time Jesus chose the faithful and discrete slave.

  Right now I'm trying to find ways to battle my depression. It's not nice to think about everything in a very negative way, even about positive things like going away on holiday and moving to a better house. Don't know how to get out of it yet.

  I hope you find a way to feel comfortable with your life again!

  I wonder about your guilt.. is it because you feel like you are lying or betraying those people? Or some other reason? I feel more like a victim than someone who is guilty of something.

  Leolaia: That quote from the insight book is from some really really old christian book and is based on a very outdated understanding of biology. Ridiculous that this is still their official view. Remember the childish dvd on Noah's time? Doesn't go into the issue at all. They don't want to touch this issue because they know it is a shitstorm waiting to happen.
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  Studying my faith away

  by the-illuminator81 in

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  i want to introduce myself.

  i'm a 28 year old active, married jw from belgium.

  in the preceding months (i'd say starting from about march) i've been slowly losing my faith.

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  Thanks all.. as most of the posts are leaning towards fading I'm beginning to realize the benefits it will bring me.

  A direct confrontation would be fun, and if I was without family or friends in the faith, it wouldn't have any dire consequences either.

  But it would also be very hard for my wife if I got DF'd, she would not be able to have any social interaction with me and her friends / family anymore.
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  Is evolution really scientific

  by ssn587 in

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  the weekly sales meeting this week, discusses whether or not evolution is really scientific.

  they go to the non reasoning book at page 121 para 4 to page 126 para 2. has anyone critiqued this yet.

  any help would be very much appreciated.

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  Their argument boils down to this: It's really complex! So it could never have randomly sprung into existence.

  And they are right, life is very complex, and it hasn't sprung into existence by mere chance. Like a snowflake however, the building blocks of life have formed because the circumstances were right. Then it took millions of years to get where we are today.

  If evolution is not real, than how have the few hundred of animals in Noah's Ark grown into the millions of species we find today? You can't have it both ways!
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  For those who is still in the org, do you still study for the meetings?

  by asilentone in

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  Only if my wife badgers me about it, which happens approximately once a month.
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  For born ins- what tipped you off it was wrong

  by teela(2) in

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  at a young age i remember watching tv and commenting why is the red cross always helping people and we don't.

  the second big one is if the witnesses only started up in 1890 - 1900 did jehovah not have anyone else doing the preaching work?.

  as a child i don't think we think about theological problems so what tipped you off?

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  I did not buy their flawed reasoning of inconsistent bible verses. I thought I could do better, studied my ass off, found nothing. Specifically:

  • The flood and Noah's Ark
  • Jacob tricking Esau and his dad
  • Judah and Tamar getting it on
  • Inheritable sin
  • God not stopping Cain when he killed Abel
  • Animals getting killed in the flood
  • Luke 16 vivid description of suffering in a nonexistent hell, from the greatest teacher that ever lived
  • The memorial of Jesus' death - most time spent explaining why we should NOT partake of the symbols.. compare it with Jesus' example in the bible

  These were all issues that bothered me while I was still in. Now I don't believe anything anymore.
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  Studying my faith away

  by the-illuminator81 in

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  i want to introduce myself.

  i'm a 28 year old active, married jw from belgium.

  in the preceding months (i'd say starting from about march) i've been slowly losing my faith.

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  StAnn: Thanks for your advice, I haven't read that book yet so I'll give it a try.
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  Studying my faith away

  by the-illuminator81 in

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  i want to introduce myself.

  i'm a 28 year old active, married jw from belgium.

  in the preceding months (i'd say starting from about march) i've been slowly losing my faith.

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  the-illuminator81

  Thanks for your welcome everybody!

  FreeAtLast1914: I hope I can one day have that experience too!

  Jam: She would choose the ORG

  Steve2: There is a constant flux in decline and growth, one year its -1% decline, the next year it is 1% growth. Most newcomers are either born-in or are immigrants. The biggest growth is in foreign language congregations. I believe Belgium and The Netherlands are the most liberal JW countries on Earth. For example, one of the elders in our congregation plays Diablo II and burns a lot of illegal software. Another elder took his children to a movie about vampires. Smurfs were never an issue. Most have seen movies like the Lord of the Rings. R-rated movies are not an issue at all. When you are out in Field Service, everybody respectfully declines to talk to you.

  I hope I can fade without losing my wife and that I can eventually show her the truth about the truth.