Its better now, people getting older. About earthquakes its not increasing we only detect more beacuse more people is living on this planet and more detecting devices are installed. If there was an increase than think that the lenght of a day in seconds will change. your GPS wont work beacuse of timing and land mass movement.
The JW need to believe myths and lies from their leaders.
ds
does anyone know if rolf furuli's second book on chronology is still in print?.
his website is no longer online, so where can a person order his books?.
Sorry to correct its Oktober and November. LOL
i am not an expert on this issue.
i have read and re-read information about it, but i guess i am somewhat dense when it comes to this topic.. my question is simple: the watchtower suggests that they believe the bible is the unerring word or god.
that it must be believed above anything else.
Doug hit the bullseye,
Readers need to read in the own historical filosophie from the WTS. That means pay not attention on the facts but create doubt and play with feelings.
A lot of half truths is a big lie at the end.
DS
when i was still serving as an elder in the late summer of 2006 in a congregation of jws in socal we received a letter from the "christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses" (read: the governing body) directing that anyone pursuing a higher education would be disqualified from privileges of service: elder, servant, pioneer, etc.
i remember this quite distinctly because i had just received by ba in education in june a few months before this.
in 2002, i had decided to pursue a degree under the society's then current "it's a personal decision" policy and was quite shocked at their drastic policy change.
I also see blank post here 00DAD?
out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!
on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.
"clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.
Here below some reaction what i tried to translate form R.J. van der Spek about this topic.
Although the quotation is correct, I have in all my work exactly the opposite view. historical information must always be prudent used (something that the authors of this Article provides not do so) and the fact that the authors of the diaries were private calls precisely for the reliability. Not that I believe in astrology, certainly not, but the babylonians does and they were very detailed reports of the starry sky and of events on earth. The accuracy of two types of information is also remarkable and also the Babylonian chronicles are a model (certainly to antique concepts) of non-partisan record. That is what my article say. It is precisely the historians like distort reality was once a benevolent story to get their (such as the authors of the watchtower article). The chronology of the new-Babylonian period is certain and there can be no doubt that the first deportation dealt in 597 (under Babylonian chronicles + tens of thousands clay tablets who support this chronology) and the second in 587 or 586 (under biblical chronology). Articles like this type is often written about our section. Writers are not specialists, accept a few dates from the material which appear to defend the argument and ignore the (often overwhelming) evidence that there are objections.
This is what was writen in the WT:
"Even if an eclipse did occur on a certain date, does thismean that the historical information the writer of the tablet assigns to that date is accurate? Not necessarily. Scholar R. J. van der Spek explains: “The compilers were astrologers, not historians.” He describes sections of the tablets that contain historical records as “more or less casual,” and he warns that such historical information must “be usedwith caution.”15"
DS ( better format )
out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!
on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.
"clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.
Here below some reaction what i tried to translate form R.J. van der Spek about this topic.
Although the quotation is correct, I have in all my work exactly the opposite view. historical information must always be prudent used (something that the authors of this Article provides not do so) and the fact that the authors of the diaries were private calls precisely for the reliability. Not that I believe in astrology, certainly not, but the babylonians does and they were very detailed reports of the starry sky and of events on earth. The accuracy of two types of information is also remarkable and also the Babylonian chronicles are a model (certainly to antique concepts) of non-partisan record. That is what my article say. It is precisely the historians like distort reality was once a benevolent story to get their (such as the authors of the watchtower article). The chronology of the new-Babylonian period is certain and there can be no doubt that the first deportation dealt in 597 (under Babylonian chronicles + tens of thousands clay tablets who support this chronology) and the second in 587 or 586 (under biblical chronology). Articles like this type is often written about our section. Writers are not specialists, accept a few dates from the material which appear to defend the argument and ignore the (often overwhelming) evidence that there are objections. Thgis is what was writen in the WT: "Even if an eclipse did occur on a certain date, does thismean that the historical information the writer of the tablet assigns to that date is accurate? Not necessarily. Scholar R. J. van der Spek explains: “The compilers were astrologers, not historians.” He describes sections of the tablets that contain historical records as “more or less casual,” and he warns that such historical information must “be usedwith caution.”15" DS
the september 1, 2011, issue of the watchtower states, on page 10, the following about when armageddon will occur/take place:.
the term armageddon (har-magedon) .
refers to a unique war .
Like a thief..... ow.......Invisible? Like he was fight with satan invisible arround 1914? and then crowned king invisible.
Howlong did the battle take place between satan and Jezus arround 1914 in heaven?
my critique of the october 1, 2011 watchtower article "when was ancient jerusalem destroyed?
http://www.jwstudies.com/critique_of_when_was_ancient_jerusalem_destroyed.pdf .
i am looking forward to hearing of correction or omissions.. please note that this is a large file (almost 7 meg) which takes a while to download and a while to format in a web browser.. the design of the critique allows a single major topic to be individually printed, so that those pages may be handed to an apologist for the watchtower society.
Hi Alfred,
Your right with that! I got the same feeling it make all sense together how the WTS thinks.
DS
begin this year there was a tv program in the netherlands where a guy goes undercover in a sect and show what is going on.
now this government party d66 want to ban sects who do brainwashing.. in our country there is an sect listwhich is 30 years old and outdated.
they start to investigate all the sects in the netherlands.
Hi John,
Its today in our Metro newspaper and also AD. Now news sites in Dutch for young people like geenstijl.nl linked this fully to JW's
A guy named alberto Stegeman who infiltrated the sect Miracle of Love bring things above that our government want to take action.
It seems that Ex sect helping organisations has a lot ex JW's in their consulting program.
DS
begin this year there was a tv program in the netherlands where a guy goes undercover in a sect and show what is going on.
now this government party d66 want to ban sects who do brainwashing.. in our country there is an sect listwhich is 30 years old and outdated.
they start to investigate all the sects in the netherlands.
I think they will go for the point that everyone is free to choose and leave an religion. For leaving as JW the organisation is very hard to do.
There are several matters but keep in mind that the dutch have an free mind of lifestyle. think about the free softdrugs and already years ago that lesbians can marriage. Now we have an big investigation in Child abuse on all levels and now seems religion abuse by sects or organisations are now under investigation.
Now you are right the WTS will defend themself by any cost. Thats why witnesses cannot see TV topics when someone goes undercover and show or make an report about shunning and Disfellowshipping. They Brainwash their members that they cannot be warned by our government or other parties.
Now the comming Watchtowers are priceless. I hope they can use it.
DS
