i resoundingly say no they won't.
they will just worm their way out of it,.
If the majority of input the UK Tax Commission receives is from JWs and the WTBTS, then the answer would be "NO".
On the other hand if 25% of ex-JWs in the UK, wrote/called/appeared at the UK Tax Commission and related their experiences in the WTBTS, then the answer would be "YES".
What is your choice? Get involved or do nothing?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
have you ever heard that statement?
i have heard it many times and i just don't know what to do with it.
they are chosing a to live a lie because they like the lifestyle.
I don't care if it's teachings are false, I'd never leave because it's the best way of life.
Hi 4thgen, It sounds like someone has a severe case of cognitive dissonance. They may have serious doubts, but need help realizing that they don't believe the WTBTS.
I would ask them, "What are you afraid of? . . . (pause wait for a response) . . . Are you afraid of being shunned by JW family and friends? . . . (pause wait for a response) . . . Since you don't care if the WTBTS's teachings are false, does that mean that you do not believe that Armageddon will happen? . . . (pause) . . . [Continue asking simple questions to continue the conversation.]" How is their life better? If they were not JWs what would they like to do. Get a better education? Travel? Do a fun hobby?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i made so many new friends on campus this week!
got my study schedule layed out, and i joined a band!
(i play guitar) it feels so good to be at a place where people aren't judgemental and fake.
Best wishes to you, Yondaime, in succeeding in your studies and guitar playing.
Why do you want to play by the WTBTS's rules by writing a DA letter to them? They will ignor what you write except for the words that you are disassociating. If you want to maintain relationships with JW family and friends, it is better to fade.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i have been lurking and reading for a couple weeks now.
i love the topics and it has inspired me to say hello to all my fellow apostates.
i was awakened to how my family feels about me and my wife shortly after the international assembly.
Welcome SpeedRacer, Sending your mother CoC may increase her cult persona's persecution complex. I'm sorry that your family are "Spiritually Strong" (non-thinking) JWs. It will be a lot tougher to help them critically think for themselves if they blindly follow the WTBTS's doctrines of not associating with non-JWs and faded JWs.
If you want to communicate better with your JW family and friends when you get an opportunity, have you read information by cult-exit counselors like Steve Hassn's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest books) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"), visited his website www.freedomofmind.com, and/or watched his FREE videos on his website?
Are you a member of Facebook? If you are, you can post pictures of your family doing fun activities and hobbies that your JW family might enjoy. It ain't much since the WTBTS is getting more controlling.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
your thoughts on such a poster?.
(http://religions.pewforum.org/reports says: "jehovah's witnesses have the lowest retention rate of any religious tradition.
only 37% of all those who say they were raised as jehovah's witnesses still identify themselves as jehovah's witnesses.").
How about, "If 67% of children leave JW.org, shunning will destroy families."?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
so is it a must and an absolute requirement to be a ministerial servant in the org?.
i was told that if i refuse an appointment as an ms then it means i'm opposing "jehovah's call to service".
Hi crazyhorse, DITTO what El_Guapo wrote, or that you are waiting on Jehovah for a sign that you are ready to serve. On the other hand, JW sisters would find you more appealing as an MS than a R&F.
Have you tried playing the incompetent card? The more mistakes that you make the less likely that the WTBTS will want you as a MS.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
few pictures from london's "undoing undue influence workshop" (aug 23, and aug 24) photos courtesy of #aawa http://ow.ly/i/6g4sahttp://ow.ly/i/6g4t4http://ow.ly/i/6g4tthttp://ow.ly/i/6g4tp.
just curious about what was discussed.
steve hassan attended it along with aawa members.. peace be with you and everyone, who you love,.
Thanks for the tip cantleave. I will have to watch the John Cedars YouTube channel later to see what was discussed.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
few pictures from london's "undoing undue influence workshop" (aug 23, and aug 24) photos courtesy of #aawa http://ow.ly/i/6g4sahttp://ow.ly/i/6g4t4http://ow.ly/i/6g4tthttp://ow.ly/i/6g4tp.
just curious about what was discussed.
steve hassan attended it along with aawa members.. peace be with you and everyone, who you love,.
Few Pictures from London's "Undoing Undue Influence Workshop" (Aug 23, and Aug 24) Photos courtesy of #AAWA http://ow.ly/i/6G4SA http://ow.ly/i/6G4T4 http://ow.ly/i/6G4Tthttp://ow.ly/i/6G4TP
Just curious about what was discussed. Steve Hassan attended it along with AAWA members.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
DITTO what Island Man wrote.
Take one day at a time. You are twenty and have a lot of time to make changes in your life. Have a good cry, get some sleep, talk with your husband about your feelings, and start planning how to make the changes that you want in your life. The WTBTS is not God's organization, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a God.
If you feel that the WTBTS is not a dangerous cult, then read what cult-exit counselors say are the characteristics of a dangerous cult. Have you checked out www.freedomofmind.com yet?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
been lurking here for yyyyyeeeeears, but was too busy with school, jw life and other interests.
now that i'm done with education for the time being anyway, plus the jw life is under pretty good control, i can spend some time and throw my views here and there in some attractive topics.. born-in, and deeply indoctrinated, but with life experience came better comprehension of my lot in life and have come to accept that, just like the family one is born into, jws are my family, friends, my ultimate and overall identity.
a jw is what i am; like the song 'hotel california', and like so many on this board, check out anytime you'd like but one could never leave.. remember like it was yesterday the failed 'the wolf is coming' calls of 1975, mid-80s, late 90's, y2k, 2004 or so, and same will be with the latest effort to get people overly excited about 'the end'.
Welcome Gustv Cintrn, I'm glad that you have found happiness as a JW, even with the WTBTS limitations.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
