you read that right.
just finished talking to steve a half hour ago.. november 19 at 10pm est, steve hassan's interview will air on cult free radio on ustream.
i will also have a co-host that evening to discuss bite mind control and steve's interview.. https://www.facebook.com/cultfreeradio.
Congratulations Mad Sweeney on booking Steve Hassan. I hope that you ask him lots of questions about unique situations of helping JW family and/or friends awaken from WTBTS' thought reform when most family and friends are JWs.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/11/11/276021_todays-news.html.
Thanks for sharing yalbmert99. I wish that more people were informed about the WTBTS' blood policy when they initially meet JWs so that they would be inspired to RUN AWAY from JWs!!
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
so as i stated in my first post, i was born to witness parents.
from early on, my parents were both quite fanatical about the "truth.
" we couldn't even eat lucky charms cereal because they thought it had satanic connections.
Thank you for sharing (((((((((freshstart))))))))! If I had a family like yours and the experiences that you had as a JW, I wouldn't ever look back and want to be a JW. I hope and pray that you and your husband and child spend many happy hours together.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
whatever happened to "unconditional love"?.
why is it today so many are willing to shun a friend or relative because they are just too much trouble or they do something that irritates them.... they claim that the other person is "not healty for them" or "harmful to their mental health" be it a relative or a goof friend.
too ready to write them off so to speak.. what happened to the kind of unconditional love that loves in good and bad times..... i don't get it... i guess "unconditional love" doesn't exist anymore.
AvocadoJake - Can you help me understand this concept, I have problems having "unconditional love." for people that have screwed me over. Jesus did not have this love for the Religious leaders of his day who were outright wicked! Please explain, am I missing something, what kind of love are you talking about?
The short answer is, "Do you have friends who you love that no organization and other people can state anything to change how you feel about your friends, and actions by your friends towards you or others will not change how you feel about them?" You can still love someone, but that does not mean that you must trust them if they have screwed you or others over. If you choose your friends wisely in the first place, your friends will show you love back and will not screw you over either. Jesus also said to "turn the other cheek" when people say things about you that hurt your feelings and should not be confused with someone hitting you in the face or screwing you over. Most JWs only love other JWs as long as JWs blindly follow the doctrines and practices of the WTBTS.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
a friend of mine was born in to this damn religion and managed to avoid getting baptised for 24 years, unlike me who fell for the cruel scam when i was about 15. he is my best and pretty much only friend i have.
i used to pressure him into baptism just a bit when i was a mindless drone, but he always told me he doesn't feel ready and doesn't feel a strong enough love for jehovah to take that step.
all his friends and family were getting baptised during their teenage years but somehow, he managed to avoid the peer pressure and continued to stay neutral.
fade_away - . . . Ok pause for a second and think "What a coincidence!!!" Twenty four years of searching for his spirituality and on the 24th year, the same year he fell for a JW girl, he finally finds his spirituality. I told him "well that's lucky! You found a girlfriend AND you found God a few months later." He knew what I was getting at and got all serious and insisted he made his decision for God and no one else. "Ok then" I said..."it could happen I guess". That's his story and he is sticking to it...and the sad thing is, everyone believes him and nobody sees the obvious. Even if they do, they deny it and claim he is finally seeing the light. They say it almost as if to say "unlike you, fade-away who has left Jehovah and his organization". I mean they might as well say that, since it is implied so much. . . .
Hi Fade_away, sorry to hear about your friend. Does he know what he wants in a wife besides sex? Marriage involves a lot more than going to meetings, FS, and getting laid. You should ask your friend questions about his likes and his GF's likes (i.e., what does his GF like to do, what does she like to read, what and how does she spend money, etc.). Also, how long has your friend known his GF? In my opinion if a couple have been dating for less than 6 months, they are still in the honeymoon phase of a relationship and may be showing their best to each other. If the relationship lasts for more than 1 year, couples may show their true selves to each other and that is when couples should decided whether to marry each other or not.
Good-luck and you should consider making more "Worldly" friends.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
no it didn`t have anything to do with steven unthank,just general problems people had with the system.. however i saw it as an opportunity to" advertise advertise advertise "steven unthanks case,though i didn`t get on the air,i spoke to the receptionist and gave her a breif as to what the case was all about.they ran out of time i left it to late to ring in.they did seem interested though.. i have since sent an e-mail to the station if anyone is interested i could post what i wrote later i`m short of time right now.. also in the herald sun this morning their was a letter to the editor on the same subject,so i took the opportunity to write them also with a slightly different slant on the subject.i could also post that if anyone is interested.
as i said i have to go out now.
smiddy.
Hi smiddy, please post your emails and the letter printed in the Herald Sun.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
just been talking to my nephew on facebook, i knew that he had no longer been in for a few years, but he told me that his two younger brothers have exited..
Awesome finallysomepride!! Did you invite them to visit JWN?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
re: results of november 8 court hearing.
yet again, all five cases remain intact and are still in the criminal justice system.
oh, how the wheels of justice turn ever so slowly.. .
I sent the following email to the Director of Public Prosecutions in Victoria, Australia today. I don't know if it will do any good, but at least I did something that I feel is constructive instead of b*tching about the WTBTS. Let the fires burn brightly!!
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
Dear John Champion SC,
I respectfully request that the Office of Public Prosecutions Victoria take over prosecuting from Steven Unthank of Steven Unthank versus the Governing Body Of Jehovah's Witnesses (CID B12083527 ), Christian Congregation Of Jehovah's (CID B12083108), Faithful And Discreet Slave (CID B12083367), Watch Tower Bible And Tract Society (CID B12083833), and Watchtower Bible And Tract Society (CID B12082206) . Steven Unthank has done a fantastic prosecution to date, but is not as well trained to prosecute the aforementioned cases as the Office of Public Prosecutions is. A joint effort with the Office of Public Prosecutions in the lead prosecutors role and Steven Unthank as subject matter expert would increase the possibility of successfully winning the aforementioned cases.
Although the prosecution of the Watchtower and its leaders may appear insignificant, it may have much broader ramifications when viewing the international reach and history of the Watchtower. Please view the following web pages to understand how the Watchtower and its leaders operate: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/bulgaria-blood-transfusions.php, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLAC9kS_EqM, http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/war-of-words-breaks-out-among-jehovahs-witnesses-2361448.html. The Watchtower is a dangerous cult as defined by Steve Hassan in his book Combatting Cult Mind Control and viewing his website http://www.freedomofmind.com/. To understand a dangerous cult like the Watchtower, the OPPV will need subject matter experts like Steve Hassan and former JWs , because although the Watchtower and its leaders do speak English the words they use may have a different meaning than a normal person would interpret. If the OPPV needs additional subject matter experts or would like to obtain photocopies of previous Watchtower literature, I recommend that the OPPV become members of English -speaking exJW forums such as www.jehovahs-witness.net, www.jwsupportforum.com, exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com, and www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com and request information from members of those forums.
I hope and pray that the OPPV tenaciously prosecutes the Watchtower and its leaders, because, if the OPPV does not, the Watchtower may after a year or two stop complying with Victoria's child protection law because of the arrogance of the Watchtower's leaders that they are superior to worldly governments. Also, I hope that if the Watchtower is successfully prosecuted in Australia so that legislators in all governments will enact laws to scrutinize organizations that apply for tax exempt and charitable government programs to exclude organizations that are dangerous cults. Reducing funding sources for dangerous cults is possibly the least expensive way to eradicate them.
Please call if you have questions,
Robert . . .
i need to get this out and this is the only place i know that it will be ok to do so.. so i've been out (inactive) for over a year a half now and decided i wanted a relationship with a non-jw, obviously.
i'm in my late 20s and never really had a girlfriend.
it doesn't help that i'm an introvert and not a very social person, add to that the guilt and control issues i have from jws and i don't think i have many outgoing attractive qualities.. i have been on dates with about 4 girls so far, one i approached randomly and the others from online dating.
Hi (((((((gutted)))))))), welcome to the real world! Considering you were raised a JW you are doing Great! If you want to get up to speed on dating, you should probably read dating books like Mars and Venus on a Date by Dr. Grey; make friends with women and go out with those women to attract other women; smile at the women like you know a secret; ask women a question about what they are doing in the moment when trying to meet them; ask women more questions then they ask you and answer their questions in less than 30 seconds; take care of yourself either by going to the gym or working out, going to a therapist to discuss your JW phobias, dressing appropriately (suits are not always required, LOL), and wearing an attractive cologne; and learning more about what you want in life. Remember to find out who you are first and what you want out of life before you get seriously involved with another person to form a life together. Dating is an adventure so enjoy its ups and downs!
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
just before i stepped off being an elder the local congo were buying a piece of land with a building on it to convert (no pun intended), into a kh.. .
one of the things as i understand it was that they were going to have a flat for the co in situ but report to the local authorities that it ws just a janitors flat.
apparently if the council knew it was for the co it would be unacceptable for some reason.
Hi punkofnice, definately send a letter to the council with photocopies of WTBTS literature about theocratic warfare/strategy so that the council is aware of how JWs behave to governments while the council is considering the cong's request. You could also send them the following link to how JWs negociated with the Bulgarian government about Df'ing: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/bulgaria-blood-transfusions.php. It is better to prepare the battlefield berfore you report that the CO is living in the flat.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
