Good-luck ((((((((JonathanH))))))) to you and your wife. I hope that your communication and trust continues to improve.
Pease be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i have neither friends nor family to turn to.
the result of being born in a cult.
but i need to talk about this.
Good-luck ((((((((JonathanH))))))) to you and your wife. I hope that your communication and trust continues to improve.
Pease be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
jeez....i if this was about two years ago, i could have put this talk togather lickety split.
but i'm finding it impossible because i can't bring myself to put in phrases such as "god's true people", "love motivates us to....." , etc, etc.
every sentence i add, i just want to throw up because it's all such...pish posh and falsehoods and hypocrisy.
Hi stillstuckcruz, congratulations on everyone liking your talk. I'm sure that it was more up lifting than a traditional WTBTS sanctioned talk.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
the jws were out in our area this morning and i bolted downstairs before my wife could waive them away as she normally does.. two ladies (mum and 24 year old daughter i later found out) initially stopped as i opened with a comment about how i couldn't trust a thing they say because they are taught to practice theocratic warfare.. the mother blinked and asked me what that was ( so it began ) i informed them both that they are allowed to lie or at least be evasive with the truth with worldy people.
she countered that they are taught not to lie so i again asked her if she knew what theocratic warfare meant and she again said no (first of my many - 'please go look that up' statements .).
i then moved onto the idea that they couldn't think independently outside the organisation due to fear of being disfellowshipped and shunned.
Congratulations Qcmbr!! The JWs will probably think twice about visiting your street again and may be some of what you said sank in. Tell your wife that you were protecting your family. How would your wife feel if one day your children met and fell in love with a JW and the JWs wanted them to participate in a Bible Study? It happened to me and has happened to many other Worldly people. Luckily for me that I am spiritual, but I am not religious and I don't join dangerous cults.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
part of my 'rebirth' after my leaving jws was to rediscover and undo the 38 missing years of my love of music.. before i was baptised i was playing a trumpet in bands and orchestras... then came the empty years (we all know the stories).. long story short, i relearned my instrument through a music school.
from there i joined a brass band, but recently we moved house and it was some way from the band i played in.
so, i searched for a new band and found one more local to me... they even have their own band room.
Enjoy the irony hotspur and blow the walls down with your music!!
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i am writing to a mate who has been disfellowshipped couple of months back to make him think about religion as i have heared he started going back to meetings.
it is going to be an anonymous email so suggestions would be welcome!.
Hi raxxxx, I hope that you can help your friend. I wrote about sending friends anonymous emails in this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/211893/1/Youe28099ve-Got-Mail-TM, if it helps you.
Why was your friend df'ed? Did he ever confide his doubts to you? I would keep you email short and ask a simple question, like "Did you ever wonder why you felt afraid or tired as a JW?", and then write "Visit www.jehovahs-witness.net to talk with other JWs anonymously or visit www.jwfacts.com to learn why."
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/12/14/few-clues-in-arson-at-jehovah-witness-kingdom-hall/.
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Although I condemn the WTBTS as being a dangerous cult, nothing justifies destroying someone elses property. Burning KH's will only help the WTBTS fan the passions of JWs to feel persecuted and loyal to the WTBTS.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i have neither friends nor family to turn to.
the result of being born in a cult.
but i need to talk about this.
JonathanH - I'm obviously mad at my wife, but there is a sick part of me that is jealous of her. We both grew up witnesses, we got married young. She's the only girl I ever dated, the only girl I've ever kissed. She will always have memories of that exciting and spicy love affair she had with that guy at work. I'll never know that excitement. I don't want to cheat on my wife, it's not even a temptation. I'm surrounded by attractive college girls that are going through the loose stage of their life, I'm friends with them, but not once have I even considered so much as flirting with any of them. But now she has this other romantic relationship, that while she may regret it, in the back of her mind she will always have enjoyed it. I'll never have that exciting exprerience. This thought makes me just as angry as anything. Is this wrong?
Hi JonathanH, turn off your computer and go out and make new "Worldly" friends, take your wife on a blind date, and flirt with those co-eds (but don't kiss them). If you want to stay married to your wife and are not going to marriage counseling with your wife, than at least read some marriage counseling books with your wife, or follow curiouscynic's advice. Your wife does not want to be reminded about her unfaithfulness to you. If you do decided to divorce your wife, than I am sure that the change will be difficult but you will adapt. Good luck whatever you decide.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i see these movies lately, that show men and woman having sex as a friends without 'planned' emotions.
who then fall in love, and end up having to admit that sex without emotion was not possible.
i wonder though, do you really think this is the case.
When I was young I had sex with a nice and attractive woman, who I had no emotional feelings for. I started to hate myself, so I stopped seeing her. It can be done, but I feel that it is much better to love or at least like the person who you are being intimate with.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i have neither friends nor family to turn to.
the result of being born in a cult.
but i need to talk about this.
JonathanH - I asked her why she would go? I mean didn't she know what was going to happen? She said that she told him that they she wouldn't have sex with him, but she expected him to kiss her. I asked her why she wore the lingerie then and she said she didn't know, she wasn't thinking about it logically, it was just sexy. But she knew what was going to happen, she went with the expectation that they would be making out. And though she says that she wasn't going to have sex with him, she intended to go back to his house friday night. You can't make out forever.
Hi JonathanH, I am sorry about what your wife did. It sounds like she is crying out for help and attention. If you want to stay married to her, than ask if she will go to marriage counseling with you. I would also recommend that you read a couple of marriage counseling books ("Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus" by John Grey and "Getting the Love that You Want - A Couples Guide" by Harville Hendrix) with your wife. It would also help if you spend more time showing your wife how sexy, attractive, and intelligent she is outside of the bedroom by going on blind dates with each other.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
jeez....i if this was about two years ago, i could have put this talk togather lickety split.
but i'm finding it impossible because i can't bring myself to put in phrases such as "god's true people", "love motivates us to....." , etc, etc.
every sentence i add, i just want to throw up because it's all such...pish posh and falsehoods and hypocrisy.
Has anyone thought about writing uplifting talks for meetings about three days in advance and then post them on JWN. By uplifting talks, I mean talks that would subliminanlly show JWs another point of view that is contrary to the WTBTS' propaganda. Visitors to the JWN might than use those talks to give in their KH.
Blondie's comments about talks is great, but it doesn't necessarily show an easy way to write an uplifting talk.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert