Posts by ABibleStudent

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do you think there are 100,000 ex jw or interested to sign?

by carla in

do you think there would be 100,000 people willing to sign a petition for the white house to look into the jw pedophile issue in 30 days?.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/how-why/step-step-guide.

"after you publish the petition, its up to you to promote it and get others to sign.

ABibleStudent

Hi carla, I would sign a petition if it was worded to request action by the President and would not single out just the WTBTS, but all non-profit organizations that put children at risk from adult predators. A well-worded petition would require the President to actively encourage Congress to pass a bill(s) and would have both criminal penalties for corporate officers (such as the GB) and for a non-profit organizations to lose their non-profit status so that donors could not claim tax deductions when an organization does not implement effective child protection policies that include reporting child molestation and abuse and rapes to the police before contacting an organization's legal department.

I tried to do something similiar in the thread URGENT: Please Sign White House Petition to "Protect Americans from Dangerous Cults: Modify USC Title 26 § 501 Tax Exemption Requirements" and It's Back! . . . Round 2 to ask the President to actively encourage Congress to pass a bill that would require non-profit organizations to stop coersive practices such as shunning. Based on my experience I received several negative comments from JWN members with very few positive suggestions on ways to mount a successful petition drive. Less than 125 people signed either petition even after I created a FB page and sent emails to organizations with members who might support such a petition.

For a petition to be successful IMHO a lot of ground work needs to be done to create a website and make contact with organizations that have members who will be sympathetic to the petition and will write their representatives before creating a petition. There are a lot of organizations which would be sympathetic to a petition if it is written to include organizations besides the WTBTS.

Best of wishes to you and PM me if you want more help.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Beard or no beard?

by ILoveTTATT in

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so i already moved out of the house, but until the elders don't give me (supposedly) the letter inviting me to a jc and then me not going, i am still a witness and my mom can still talk to me.

my dad wants us to meet, but my mom had said that if i have my beard she might not want to see me (she is a completely blinded jw... beards = apostate = i am a horrible human being).

so... my question is, given that i can grow it later, should i shave it off so my mom feels more comfortable?

ABibleStudent

HI ILoveTTATT, If you like your beard, keep it. Let your mother see that you are same person whether you have a beard or not.

I like your ideas about talking about your photography projects, travel plans, how you plan to lose weight, etc. Just focus on having fun with your parents and gently remind your Mom when she brings up JW/WTBTS related topics that life is too short to talk about the WTBTS.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Planting seeds of thought with my JW doctor

by Faithful Witness in

i have hesitated to post anything about my recent encounters with our jw doctor, because i don't really want anyone to insult her or me, for continuing to rely on her for medical care.

our family doctor is a jehovah's witness.

we were referred to her by our former bs conductor.

ABibleStudent

ShirleyW - Not really Bible Student, what Dr. actually checks thru all the magazines in there waiting room?

Hi ShirleyW, A "Spiritually Strong" (non-thinking) JW's persecution complex might mention it to her patients. Faithful Witness wrote that it is a family practise, so it is not as busy as clinic in a major metropolitan area. A non-JW in a family practise (or in clinic) wouldn't mention it at all. Besides Faithful Witness could ask the doctor if she had visited the websites that were written on the WTBTS propaganda if the doctor does not mention it to her to learn if she is a JW without asking her any suspicious questions.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Planting seeds of thought with my JW doctor

by Faithful Witness in

i have hesitated to post anything about my recent encounters with our jw doctor, because i don't really want anyone to insult her or me, for continuing to rely on her for medical care.

our family doctor is a jehovah's witness.

we were referred to her by our former bs conductor.

ABibleStudent

Hi Faithful Witness, If you want to find out if your doctor is a JW or not, secretaly start writing www.jwfacts.com or www.freedomofmind.com in permanent ink (or attaching permanent stickers with QR codes) on the JW literature in the doctor's office. If she is a JW, she will tell you that someone is defaming WTBTS propaganda in her office.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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UN report : vatican policies allowed priests to rape children

by ashpman in

www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-n-report-vatican-policies-allowed-priests-rape-children-n22531.

sounds familier to policies of a certain religious group i know of.

wheels of change just turned a little more.. .

ABibleStudent

I wonder what the UN would do to NGO's that behaved the same as the Catholic Church? I wonder if they know about Candace Conti and other coverups by the WTBTS?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Please read! Breaking News....

by Newly Enlightened in

http://www.mcalesternews.com/breakingnews/x409169231/da-jehovah-witness-church-concealed-molestation-crimes.

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governing body being accused of covering it up!.

ABibleStudent

One can only hope that more JWs will read these types of stories and wonder why more has not been done or could be done to protect children. Waiting on Jehovah (i.e., the GB) doesn't work!!

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Tech49 has the CO over for lunch

by Tech49 in

so awhile back, during our last circuit overseer visit, vic and i decided to bite the bullet.... there seemed to be very little support for the mid-week lunch plans for the co and his wife, so we signed up to host.

we definitely didnt want it to be awkward, so we invited a few others along, as a nice little group affair.

they were excited, and offered to do the cooking, so i said i would play along.. just some background.... this particular co is kind of a tool (big surprise right?

ABibleStudent

Hi Tech49, If the CO lives in the USA, you might want to send him the following link to how to qualify for Social Security: http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10035.pdf. The bottom line is that if he has not paid social security tax he is out-of-luck getting SSI.

How do you qualify for retirement benefits?

When you work and pay Social Security taxes, you earn
“credits” toward Social Security benefits.

The number of credits you need to get retirement benefits
depends on when you were born. If you were born in 1929
or later, you need 40 credits (10 years of work).

If you stop working before you have enough credits to
qualify for benefits, the credits will remain on your Social
Security record. If you return to work later on, you can
add more credits so that you qualify. We cannot pay any
retirement benefits until you have the required number
of credits.

Kuddos to you for using a very interesting tactic to help your wife see through the WTBTS's BITE control.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Planting seeds of thought with my JW doctor

by Faithful Witness in

i have hesitated to post anything about my recent encounters with our jw doctor, because i don't really want anyone to insult her or me, for continuing to rely on her for medical care.

our family doctor is a jehovah's witness.

we were referred to her by our former bs conductor.

ABibleStudent

Hi Faithful Witness, Although it may not be any of your business to help your doctor to see TTATT, I feel that the way that you have handled yourself so far is very good. I do not feel that it is inappropriate to express your thoughts about the importance of family to you, the importance of doing independent research, and critically thinking for oneself to JWs. There is a big difference between helping someone to critically think for oneself and pushing ones religious beliefs on another person. Go for it with your doctor!

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Non JW girl with a JW guy

by Accio in

i want to talk about my story because i need help and advice and most impirtant a lot of comfort.. one year and a half ago i met a wonderful guy.

he was really nice and supporyed me during hard moments.

i slowly fell in love with him.

ABibleStudent

Accio - I know if he doesn't like me my heart will be broken... but I need advice to fight being shy, show him I like him or which signs mean he likes me too. Thank you !

Hi Accio, Practise, practise, practise being outgoing and projecting confidence. Most guys like women who smile, are positive, are fun to be around, ask guys questions as well as talk about themselves, and project confidence about themselves. Look around at women who you know who are popular and try to figure out what you would feel comfortable changing in your behavior/appearance.

A simple way to find out if this guy likes you, is to occasionally lightly touch him from his hand to his elbow momentarily when he says something funny or something that you like. If you do this several times in an encounter and he does not touch you back or draws away from you, you know that he is not interested in you.

Use the time that you have with this guy to get a better idea what you want in a BF or future husband. The better vision that you have of what you want in life: the better choices that you will make in the future.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Oh My God!!

by ABibleStudent in

yesterday after an awesome workout at the gym i was walking to the front door and i saw my former friend who is a "spiritually strong" (non-thinking) jw walking towards me talking with a trainer.

i thought she was either there on a job interview or was taking a tour of the facilities before joining.. i thought should i say hi, should i say nothing, would she acknowledge me, etc.

i decided to say hi to make sure that she remembered that i am a member of this gym, so that she would not feel uncomfortable it she accepted a job there or joined it.. the gym is about 20 miles from where she lived when i was friends with her, but is in a convenient location between where she was living and where she works.. i said "hi n" about five feet before me, no response.. i said "hi n" a little louder about five feet after they passed me.

ABibleStudent

@ cult classic, I do enjoy working out. On Superbowl Sunday I played tennis, worked out at the gym, bladded with a friend, and did 12-oz curls at Hooters. I consider that an awesome workout schedule. Too bad the Broncos lost, but the Seahawks were definately playing better and the Seahawks defense definately deserved the win.

I'm glad that you are able to seperate your feelings for JWs' cult and authentic personas, so that you can live freer from the WTBTS.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert