Hi Billy I'm excited for you. Nice going!
Remember years ago people used to ask us "hey what are you gonna be when your big?" So how about it ... what are you going to be?
Best wishes
clarity
just wanted to drop in and share the good news that i have been accepted to "the big city university" this fall.
sorry i haven't been around much lately, this is a busy semester as i'm just getting on with a really exciting life.. wow, has my life changed as i look back over the years!
and jwd/jwn has been an important part of the positive direction that my life is now headed.. my previous thread and history are in the private section for members.
Hi Billy I'm excited for you. Nice going!
Remember years ago people used to ask us "hey what are you gonna be when your big?" So how about it ... what are you going to be?
Best wishes
clarity
instead of problems i will see potential.
instead of a spirit of fault-finding i will develop the spirit of appreciation.
instead of a spirit of condemnation i will develop the spirit of commendation.
Zid ...hope I catch you before you sign off. OK, when someone reads a thread and likes it, they 'mark' it. What is that and how do you mark it?
thanks
clarity
howdy, jwners.
here's a little personal update.
my marriage is ending.
Dear Sd-7, aww so very sorry
Been there done that and it doesn't feel good!
Get busy doing things you enjoy ... go out with someone fun ... fix-up your place.
Do you remember that comfy old chair in the thrift store? Go get it! Buy something that is really you!
I hope you have a family member who will help you through this.
Don't worry about what people think about this. Believe in yourself (((sd))).
clarity
this earlier topic [why do it feel bad about my children leaving jw religion?
] is what causes me to ask this question:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/208031/1/why-do-i-feel-bad-about-my-children-leaving-the-jw-religion.
Hello Wasblind - you're so right about jw kids being afraid to 'open up' to their parents. Any wrong doing will be reported to the "leaders" and this fear interfears with the natural family communication. To confess to this bunch is like slitting your own throat lol!
Doc ......"How long before you get over the concern that everything bad happening in your life is divine justice?"
How long is a piece of string?? It all depends on you. Good luck.
clarity
though i no longer believe the fds is indeed appointed by god, i guess because of what has been taught to me all these years through the wtbts, i still make an effort to try and look at both sides.
and then i come across this number below, which is how i arrived at my title for this thread.
***w81 2/15 p.19 do we need help to understand the bible?***.
Coc,
"And if you don't arrive at that conclusion despite reading their publications, is it then alright to consider the Watchtower's spiritual food as harmful? CoC"
Definately yes but .... they will kill you if you do! Invisibly that is.
clarity
as many know my wife and i will be moving and starting a new business this summer.
in many ways it will bring freedom to us for no one knows us where we are moving.
being a born-in i would like to ask all of you what are some great ways we can meet new people and make friendships outside the jw cult?
When you do meet new people don't complain & don't explain!
Never mention jw's ... if it comes up ... just smile
very good luck ... btw I love donuts.
clarity
this earlier topic [why do it feel bad about my children leaving jw religion?
] is what causes me to ask this question:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/208031/1/why-do-i-feel-bad-about-my-children-leaving-the-jw-religion.
I understand your trepidation Doc.
I've seen your quandry from both sides of the fence.
I had no religious upbringing at all. Abandoned at a very young age, I lived on my own worked hard and supported myself. I had respect for myself, morally and ethically. Never smoked & hated booze! Could have done any darn thing at all, but didn't. Go figure!
Now, I agree with you, youths do seem to have a degree of restraint because of watchtower commands teachings, but the almost sole factor in staying within these teachings is .... FEAR.
Fear of dying at armageddon, fear expulsion & shunning, being abandoned by family and by every one of their friends, deep shame, fear of what the parents will do to them, fear of having their name called out at the kingdom hall, fear/shame of sitting at the back of the hall for at least a year ...if they don't, they won't be forgiven, fear of losing their home & job and fear that god won't hear their prayers anymore.
See a difference ... it is almost ..............blackmail!
But you're right jw's are disuaded from sin ......... for as long as it lasts.
Bottom line you must make your own decisions. Looks like you need more information to do that. Keep looking.
clarity
ted dencher wrote a book in 1966 entitled, "why i left jehovah's witnesses.".
one of his chapters is entitled: "effect of anonymity on the mind.".
he points out that the wts goes out of its way to take away jws' individual identities:.
Ding, excellent ...thank you so much for posting this. I never would have found it!
Btw, where did you come across it?
clarity
early christian writings.. .
let alone "inspired by god?
church councils) this is what i mean by spiritual osmosis.. there are other early lists of new testament books that.
Omg ProdigalSon,
didn't think you'd be on here so early(depending on where you live). I thought I was catching up with all this .... and here you are busy sending out more! lol
Oh thanks a lot!
clarity
early christian writings.. .
let alone "inspired by god?
church councils) this is what i mean by spiritual osmosis.. there are other early lists of new testament books that.
"Pandora had a jar which she was not to open under any circumstance. Impelled by her natural curiosity, Pandora opened the box-jar, and all evil contained escaped and spread over the earth. She hastened to close the lid, but the whole contents of the jarhad escaped, except for one thing which lay at the bottom, which was Hope"
So Prodigal, here I am in the wee small hours of the morning, reading this thread again. Absorbing more this time.
Many weeks ago, I asked a question and a huge amount of information has come to my attention!! I keep turning it over and looking at it from every angle. Amazing! How could I not have seen this before!
Like a good book, I can't put it down till it's finished.
Like Pandora's Box. It has been opened, but instead of evil flying out of it .... a flash of light shines out from it ... and I can't stuff it back in, it's flown everywhere now.
(& no, it's not the jw nulite)
clarity