!n 1984....baptised in the name of the father, Son & holy spirit!
!986 ......into jehovah & gods spit directed organization!
Read Christs words end Matthew (I think) to see what word he used!
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Jehovah's Witnesses Baptism Fraud
by Watchtower-Free ini found this on youtube .........................emotional video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtxasmyxtyq.
"in the summer of 1946, i was baptized at the international convention in cleveland, ohio.
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Wake up and smell the cult! please I'm begging you.
by sparrowdown inat times i yearn for those i love that are still "in" to just wake up and smell the cult.. i end up feeling sorry for them yet angry at them at the same time.. i know each person is on their own journey and its a process,.
but i just wish the process would hurry up already!.
when will this nightmare end.
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Sparrow...... come on little bird you will be fine, takes
time. How long were you in?
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Frustrating conversation i had yesterday...I finally realized
that when you point out the beliefs/doctrine of jwitnesses,
they don't know what you are talking about .....never read THAT!
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Try to show them or explain it, and guess what...are they shocked, amazed.
.....oh no...................they don't care!!!! aaaaagagggggg!
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A contribution from one of the members!
by Atlantis ina contribution from one of the members who doesn't get to post very often.. ... .......... ........................ ......... ..........atlantis
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What Carl Sagan thought of jw propaganda.
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An interesting comment on this transformation was made by Carl Sagan in his book Broca's Brain (New York: Ballantine Books, 1979, pp. 332-333):
Doctrines that make no predictions are less compelling than those which make correct predictions; they are in turn more successful than doctrines that make false predictions.
But not always. One prominent American religion confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. Well, 1914 has come and gone, and -- while the events of that year were certainly of some importance -- the world does not, at least so far as I can see, seem to have ended. There are at least three responses that an organized religion can make in the face of such a failed and fundamental prophecy. They could have said, "Oh, did we say '1914'? So sorry, we meant '2014.' A slight error in calculation. Hope you weren't inconvenienced in any way." But they did not. They could have said, "Well, the world would have ended, except we prayed very hard and interceded with God so He spared the Earth." But they did not. Instead, they did something much more ingenious.
They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout. It is astonishing in the face of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough-mindedness of the believers. But it does indicate, if a demonstration were needed, that near the core of the religious experience is something remarkably resistant to rational inquiry.
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A contribution from one of the members!
by Atlantis ina contribution from one of the members who doesn't get to post very often.. ... .......... ........................ ......... ..........atlantis
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Thanks a lot Atlantis..... I wasn't around in 1948, but all this
pile of rubbish was still there when I was sucked in, around
1959-60!
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Makes my blood run cold, to look at it now. All for nothing.All that so called truth has changed, all those mags/brochures/books
are useless scrap paper now.... hidden, thrown away!
All that work Printing this stuff, shuffleing it d2d, just wasted time!
THE MESSAGE wasted effort ....that generation is dead!
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Amazing there are 7 million people still looking to watchtower
for TRUTH .......even Carl Sagan was amazed at their stupidity!
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a kinda depressed clarity today!
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Ohh, I forgot to celebrate.....
by Dismissing servant in...but the last time i reported field service was in february 1989.
25 years ago now!.
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I don't know...but I wish it were me!!
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JW vs Jehovah's Witnesses
by Da.Furious inapologies if this was discussed earlier.
i tried to search for a similar topic but couldnt find one.. anyway, i am an active jw or is it jehovah's witness?.
recently i noticed a trend, mainly found between teenagers and older techie brothers, of referring to themselves as jws.
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Btw, thank you for the fabulous list Searcher!
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JW vs Jehovah's Witnesses
by Da.Furious inapologies if this was discussed earlier.
i tried to search for a similar topic but couldnt find one.. anyway, i am an active jw or is it jehovah's witness?.
recently i noticed a trend, mainly found between teenagers and older techie brothers, of referring to themselves as jws.
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Da.Furious ...hey nice to see you on here. Good question!
Personally...now I am out, after discovering that the jehovah's witness
society (my hands sweat just typing it out!) lies, deceives & just
makes sh$t up............I loathe using that name!
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When I hear so many mumble these names, even from the platform,
ie. kitam hal (kingdom hall) and use JEHOVAH a dozen times in one
prayer....more like they have OCD ....not like they really believe it,
then I think jw or jw.org is a quick way to bypass the agony! lol
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Jimbojones ......nice to have you here ..welcome!
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Is this the New Elders book
by Watchtower-Free inthe last release in 2010 was entitled "shepherd the flock of god'.
code named ks10 .. .
this would be the ks11.
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"Todays Day text: Keep on reproving them with severity, that they may be healthy in the faith.—Titus 1:13."
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Ha ha ...that's about the equivalent of saying about the guy with a
head wound........ "keep on hitting him with a baseball bat, until he
learns a lesson!"
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Confused?
by nomorepain13 ini have been going to meetings since i was a child, long story short only recently i've started taking the truth seriously, i am not baptized but just an unbaptized publisher.
truth is i am so lonely in the congregation.
the other young people in the cong don't like me because they dont think i am going to "stay" for long, i've even worked on the ministry with an older brother and asked her am i giving the wrong impression to people?
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Nomorepain13........first of all WELCOME to a place
where you are free to speak what you feel!
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"but should I really talk to the elders about how I want to leave?"
Nomore, elders are just men .......nothing holy or special!
The less you say or confess to them .....the better.
Do not get baptised.......because then they can force all 7 million
jws to shun you .....I repeat do not get baptised.
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Start researching the ugly past of watchtower and every doctrine
they have told you ........they are so wrong on so many levels.
Stick around here watch the video's, such as on John Cedars survey,
Mike & Kim, JWfacts etc.
all the best
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Victory in Defeat !
by cookiemaster inmaybe you guys remember that in january, i shared here our situation with the ongoing conflict with the ms that was conducting the wt study in our home.
well, my parents decided to talk to the elders about it.
the last time he held the study in our home he really said some insulting things during it.
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