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Didnt I tell you that there is something wrong with this organization?
by exWTslave in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
thats how my grand mother responded when all of our family members came out of jw organization, either by disassociation or by disfellowshipping.. when we all started studying with jws, my grandmother too was there, but she stopped the study when the discussion over the dead happened.

she told the study conductor: i am convinced that there is only life, but no death.

because when my husband died of heart attack, i was not shaken by the incident.
clarity

Just scrolling thru jwn before bedtime......so glad I did!

Isn't that what love ideally is all about ... listening &.

hearing the really important things that others say, being

open to another human's ideas & hopes.

We are all on this journey of life together like it or not.

Reaching out our hands ......... or not.

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"What a fond memory (too precious) you all gave for me to cherish for the rest of my life, even though very few days are left before I die. I feel so light now, and feel proud of you, children of my heart. My love to you all. May God bless you all"

Granma ...you reached out your heart to us tonight,

thank you dear lady.

clarity
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I have made my decision
by Brother Mike in
1. jw
2. experiences
i'm sure most of you have read bits and pieces of my story throughout the last year being on this site.

i've decided as a human being, and as an adult, i'm going to make the decision on whether to stay with the jw religion or leave it.

i of course have many doubts about the organization which has lead me to do research.
clarity

Congratulations Mike........take your time for sure.......you have many

years ahead. Sounds like a solid plan.

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"In the next 2 years I will make sure I get settleed down on my own

and then get up and leave the organization."

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Glad you are smart ... and not going to waste your whole life!

clarity
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What is definition of a true friend, once outside the cult?
by suavojr in
1. jw
2. friends
after leaving the cult of jw's or waking up to ttatt, it is a struggle to trust people again.

i am personally starting from scratch although i am still in.

each moment i spend with my current jw friends, i know they are all smiles and loving towards me because of my good status with the wt.. outside a cult you still find fake people and it is also a struggle to find true friends and it is even worst when we've been hit hard from people we used to trust and care for.. .
clarity

It is hard to make "old Friends" !

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When we are young, making friends is relatively easy.

You naturally sort out the good from the bad (as it were).

So that, when you reach adulthood....you mostly have

those who 'match' you, in your life.

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Starting out to find 'new' friends after the fact, is not the

same at all. Right from square one.....you are trying to decide

who you can trust, who matches your personality..... who who who!

It is a little like being dropped down in the middle of a cocktail party,

where you don't know a soul!

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More blunders will be made, more bad judgements, more starting over.

But when you find your mates & you click ...it will be worth all the effort!

clarity
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Is it all about the money?
by Laika in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
often on this forum there are posts about how the gb are obsessed with money and some people here often suggest this impacts every decision the gb makes i.e.

on my holiday thread it was suggested jws aren't allowed to celebrate holidays as it means spending money on presents that they want for themselves.. i however, do not think this is at all true.

the society rarely talks about money and as a percentage of income i think the vast majority of jws contribute a very small amount simply because the society rarely talk about it.. obviously money is important to the society in the sense that they couldn't run a major organisation without it, so they have to ask for it at times and factor it in to some of their decision making, but actually the gb live quite frugally and seem to worry much more about clinging to their authority and power than getting rich.. my controversial suggestion of the day is that saying the gb are obsessed with money must make us look silly to lurkers.. what does the jwn intellegentsia think then?.
clarity

HHmmm...... imagine if you owned massive Real Estate in almost

every part of the world. Imagine someone else purchasing it for you.

Imagine that thousands of people came to build, repair & maintain

your investments......so that the value went up ...at no cost to you!

Imagine if you could sell your profitable properties when you decided

to ....without an explanation or revealling any details .....especially where

all the money went!

Imagine not paying taxes on these billions of dollars ...

'cause you run a business religion and ....and a very big perk,

..............your followers think you speak for god!

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hahahaha........omg I wish I could have thought of doing that!

Wouldn't have worked my fingers to the bone all these years!

clarity
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W. C. Fields
by glenster in
1. social
2. entertainment
includes some less often seen silents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/w._c._fields.

sally of the sawdust 1920. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-jbifbojjq.
clarity

Oh ...the review of the Bank Dick .........

has Rutherford written all over it, ha ha haha.

"The Bank Dick" Fields plays an alcoholic misanthrope who lies, cheats and steals and is rewarded with wealth and fame

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W. C. Fields
by glenster in
1. social
2. entertainment
includes some less often seen silents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/w._c._fields.

sally of the sawdust 1920. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-jbifbojjq.
clarity

Omg .....for starters ...nice to see you glenster!!!

You were here a lot when I showed-up on jwn. Miss you!

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Everything about those 'Silents' are priceless ...the age-old houses,

the hackneyed phrases, the simple innocence and gorgeous antique

cars! The 20's ...a bit before my time but love all that 'old' stuff!

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Thanks for posting those links ........ :-)

clarity
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Didnt I tell you that there is something wrong with this organization?
by exWTslave in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
thats how my grand mother responded when all of our family members came out of jw organization, either by disassociation or by disfellowshipping.. when we all started studying with jws, my grandmother too was there, but she stopped the study when the discussion over the dead happened.

she told the study conductor: i am convinced that there is only life, but no death.

because when my husband died of heart attack, i was not shaken by the incident.
clarity

Awww ....how nice. Love to you both.

I hope your family has found peace and a freedom that

does not exist in the watchtower society!

My best wishes to all of you.

clarity
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A letter from my Mom
by ateograciasadios in
1. jw
2. friends
friends,.

i have seen several posts like the following, and never thought i would have to write one myself, but here we go: my dear mom is forcing me to make a move... one that i have been really avoiding as much as possible.

she wrote me an email today, and here i am giving you an idea of its contents.
clarity

Ateo......hi and welcome, so glad you found us.

Take your time, don't let her rush you.

That 'Brown' guy is not the guy you would want to talk to

ever! If he is the one I am thinking of! Company Man!

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Here is a link .....scroll down a bit on the first page, there is

a scan of the 2009 Awake magazine "Is it wrong to change

your religion?" You can read their very words!

Also some comments in that thread that will help you.

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http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/174959/1/No-One-Should-Be-Made-to-Choosee280a6-LIES-from-July-09-Awake#.UzO0UG9OVjo

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If you look at the left hand top of your page ...you will see

SEARCH ....type in what you are looking for, to find quotes etc.

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Makes you wonder how a religion that spouts LOVE,

can cause so much grief.

* All the best ...keep posting.

clarity
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Didnt I tell you that there is something wrong with this organization?
by exWTslave in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
thats how my grand mother responded when all of our family members came out of jw organization, either by disassociation or by disfellowshipping.. when we all started studying with jws, my grandmother too was there, but she stopped the study when the discussion over the dead happened.

she told the study conductor: i am convinced that there is only life, but no death.

because when my husband died of heart attack, i was not shaken by the incident.
clarity

exWTslave .......lovely post, thank you for telling us

your story.

After 50 posts you are relatively new here, so welcome

again and hope you share a lot more! Your Grandmother

sounds like a wise person, not easily fooled.

As we are all very different on this site, many on here

don't see it the way your Gran does, but it is refreshingly

pleasant and will encourage a lot of those who do!

All the best exWTslave...

clarity
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Obey Even If It Doesn't Sound Reasonable ...Even if it kills you!
by clarity in
1. watchtower
2. bible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoiyyeuscfu.

most on here, have read about the disaster in the phillipines,.

where 30 + jw's were killed ...mostly sitting in their kingdom hall!.
clarity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOiyYEuSCfU

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Most on here, have read about the disaster in the Phillipines,

where 30 + jw's were killed ...mostly sitting in their kingdom hall!

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John Cedars does an excellent expose on it at his JWSurvey.org and

Mike & Kim also have just posted a very revealing video about the situation

that Watchtower puts upon it's gulliable people. (btw Mike & Kim joined JWN last yr)

Heads up at the very end, where you will see how watchtower seems to be still

connected to the ..........United Nations (wild beast)

Enjoy what these lovely people are working hard at!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOiyYEuSCfU

clarity