Never thought I'd ever hear ignorance extolled as a virtue!
I's like ....oh wow ...how dumb am I !!!!!!!! Idiots!
thursday, march 3. they were uneducated and ordinary men.—acts 4:13.. in recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity.
consider three examples.
first, there is the simplified edition of the watchtower.
Never thought I'd ever hear ignorance extolled as a virtue!
I's like ....oh wow ...how dumb am I !!!!!!!! Idiots!
Who is the brains of this outfit ?........don't worry about it. If & when they find do find one, I'm sure they will be so proud! They might even have it bronzed.
i didn't see an introduction forum anywhere but i thought it would be weird to start posting without first introducing myself so, here we are.
i'm 15, and i've been looking for a place to discuss my thoughts on the religion that i'm pretty much stuck in at the moment.
my mom and dad divorced over their different beliefs over a year ago (my mom is jw and my dad is an very knowledgeable apostate, so you can see how they would fight over it), and since then i've stopped believing altogether.. just thought i'd say hello.
Nice to see you on here Thomas...... great that you can see right through this organization. Get out quietly but get out and enjoy your life ...you only get one and this is it!
I hope you are starting to see what would be a wise educational move for you. Find out what you really love to do & do it!
Hang around you will find support here as long as you need it.
clarity
hey everyone,.
just a simple straight forward question on exactly what the process is.
if a gb member died tomorrow, do the remaining ones choose who gets to be next?.
The other name I was looking for was Ewart Chitty. Not sure about Percy being kicked out but he seems very questionable. Sort of Like Franz in the steam room I guess!
hey everyone,.
just a simple straight forward question on exactly what the process is.
if a gb member died tomorrow, do the remaining ones choose who gets to be next?.
"I was thinking it was maybe one and the rest turn a blind eye."
Well Millie that has been the case.
Leo Greenlees & a chubby guy ... Percy ...cant remember last name, were gb members and the rest just turned a blind eye. Even Freddie Franz was weird in that way ..... many hours spent in the steam room (necked as a jailbird!) with the young boys!
Percy had a special boys who were called Percy's boys!
clarity
it's great to see all the familiar posters as i've been reading for the last few hours.
still offering great advice and help.
awesome job.
jerry jones on youtube exposed a jw couple who were begging for money on gofundme.
this is his youtube .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feohxtbml2c.
Wow .... they are hoping to get money from those who they consider to be the walking dead!
I had to work full time at a difficult job and was constantly put down because of it. But who did they come to when a "poor" pioneer needed stamps or clothes or a flight home ....those who were working that's who!
clarity
if you read some of my past posts you’ll know that i’ve successfully faded while being able to keep contact with my immediate family, who are still very devout jws.
when i did finally completely stop attending meetings, my family, and especially my parents (elder father and pioneer mom), were of course very interested to know the reasons why.
at first i deflected their questions, stating that i had personal reasons and did not want to explain myself.
Scared and lonely ...... so sorry you are feeling this way. Many of us are or have been in your position. All is not lost, you will gain strength and a sense of your own power & importance.
You need to find people to be with ...even strangers at coffee shops. If you are able ... go to a therapist.
Watchtower lies when they say the world is bad & the people are bad. There are wonderful people all around you ....hold out your hand to them. Keep posting & researching.......you will make it no matter what way you do it. Freedom is priceless ...be brave.
clarity
"you don't go to church in a kingdom hall" was stated during the public talk yesterday.
the speaker then elaborated that "people who go to church, go to fulfill a spiritual obligation.
coming to the kingdom hall is coming to learn.
i can't recall the word that describes a group that keeps to itself like the witnesses do.
i thought it was "insular" but i don't think that's the one i'm looking for after reading the definition.
i remember an elder using the word "clannish" and that has the proper definition but it reminds me of a group of elves.
It is the feeling of wanting to pound your head against a brick wall while talking to a jw .........that word!
Let Carl Sagan in his book Broca's Brain, help you Paul .
"....One prominent American religion confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. Well, 1914 has come and gone, and -- while the events of that year were certainly of some importance -- the world does not, at least so far as I can see, seem to have ended. There are at least three responses that an organized religion can make in the face of such a failed and fundamental prophecy. They could have said, "Oh, did we say '1914'? So sorry, we meant '2014.' A slight error in calculation. Hope you weren't inconvenienced in any way." But they did not. They could have said, "Well, the world would have ended, except we prayed very hard and interceded with God so He spared the Earth." But they did not. Instead, they did something much more ingenious.
They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout. It is astonishing in the face of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough-mindedness of the believers. But it does indicate, if a demonstration were needed, that near the core of the religious experience is something remarkably resistant to rational inquiry.