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  If the big change at the AGM meeting is dropping the literal 144,000...

  by slimboyfat in

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  the best conjecture seems to be that the gb are going to drop the literal 144,000 teaching, especially in view of the december watchtower that pointedly does not mention the 144,000 number.

  if they are dropping the literal 144,000 number, but still claim that only a small number are anointed, and can partake, and that only a few are left on earth, then it is fair to ask what has really changed?

  they are simply clearing up the embarrassing situation that there were obviously more than 144,000 "anointed" believers from 36 ad until now, and that the number of partakers has been increasing in recent years.

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  Fencing

  That phrasing in the Dec. 15th WT is really strange. Especially the part specifcally targeting the "faithful apostles" as an example of who is anointed. Per JW doctrine, everyone who was a "true" Christian from 33 CE onward until around 1935 when the great crowd was "discovered" by Rutherford, was anointed, not just the 12 faithful apostles. Sounds like they're opening the door to first century Christians having the earthly hope, which would make sense if they're going to redefine the 144,000 completely.
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  The year 1914

  by Kool Jo in

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  ok...so after this new light came out in the watchtower study over the weekend...a couple questions:.

  1. why is the year 1914 still relevant to the doctrine?.

  2. what would the effects be in they were to ever drop the 1914 teaching in the future (let's say 20 years from now)?.

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  Fencing

  I think it would be a mistake for them to give up on 1914 so soon after their (very poor) attempts to defend 607 in 2011 and 2012.

  I thought the same initially, but then I remembered that neither of those two articles in 2011 made a single mention of 1914, or even why the 607 date was so important that they had to write a two-part article on it. I don't remember the one from 2012.
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  The Great Tribulation Was in the 1st Century and WIll Never Occur Agian

  by cassuk11 in

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  the messiah told the discipels they would live through it, they would ,see it, they would experience it and it would never occur again..

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  Designs, it appears you recieved your answer.
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  The Fullfillment of Prophecy about the last days in The 1st Centruy

  by cassuk11 in

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  the last days were about the destruction of jerusalem and the temple in the 1st centruy.

  the messiah was talking to those who asked the question , he replied tot hem and did not lie or mislead.he told them not us that soem would still be alive when he returned.

  they fully expected it andwere waiting.he did not lie .he cmae back for his chosen ones and took them back where they serve in the kingdom .most of the apocolyptic language used were symbolic metephors randt akenform the old testamant.

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  Fencing

  Because there's nothing ex-JWs love more than to be preached at about even more imaginary end times crap.
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  Thoughts on Jesus' Resurrection

  by Perry in

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  i think that in our various discussions about life after the wt, we many times forget about the cornerstone of christian life - the resurrection.

  the implications of the existence a man who holds the power of life and death is manifold.

  it makes discussions about the existence of god obsolete.. for all of scientists' accomplishments they have never been able to make even one amobea come alive from non-life.

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  Evolution is Crap, there I said it!

  by Crazyguy in

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  ok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.

  the theory of major evolution is crap!

  the theory is falling apart.

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  Fencing

  I don't like Full Gospel. I prefer 1/4th Gospel. Or maybe 2/5ths Gospel at the most.
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  A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

  by Londo111 in

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  this is the main series playlist:.

  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

  this is the accompanying video appendix:.

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  The question isn't about whether I want you to go away. It's why *you* don't want to go away.
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  A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

  by Londo111 in

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  this is the main series playlist:.

  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

  this is the accompanying video appendix:.

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  So you willingly flaunt Jehovah's own council? What, it doesn't apply to you?
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  A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

  by Londo111 in

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  2. bible

  this is the main series playlist:.

  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

  this is the accompanying video appendix:.

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  So, why again is has someone who is obviously a true believing Witness been conversing and arguing with apostates for 12 years now in direct opposition to Jehovah's own guidance as given through the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
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  DC: apostates are the Anti-Christ

  by under_believer in

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  the more you know, i guess.. also, they used a metaphor likening them to known sex offenders.

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  good times over here in day 2. .

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  Fencing

  Also the apostate's main goal is to achieve prominence and attention.

  They've been claiming that for as long as I can remember. When I was "in", I believed that all apostates were out starting their own churches so they could get their own following.