I never understood why the Society, about 15-20 or so years ago in the US, started insisting on packing, shipping and setting up their own sound equipment in arenas and other venues with perfectly good sound systems that they could easily tie into. Seemed like a huge waste of money and time for no determinable benefit.
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Changes for Volunteers at Conventions and Assemblies in Spain
by RayPublisher insomeone sent me this from jwtalk.
a guy on there just posted this regarding changes to the way the jws volunteer at conventions in spain and the changes seem fairly major:.
we had a special meeting today called a training session for volunteers.
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Worst Memorial Talk Ever!
by The Searcher ini honestly have never heard such claptrap being delivered in a memorial talk.. the speaker repeatedly put down the way other religions administered the bread & wine, and claimed that witnesses do it exactly as the bible describes.
oh yeah????.
he forgot to mention - when reading aloud 1 corinthians 11:25 - that after passing the bread, a full meal was to be shared, before the wine was passed around!
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THANK YOU. First time going with awareness and saw and heard them say Judas NOT there ....only 11. I knew he was for bread and meal and confirmed tonight that he was ALSO there for wine. Made huge impact on hubby too. He finally started COC this week.
It's amazing, isn't it? The speaker (and thus, I'm assuming the outline) makes a big point this year about how Judas was dismissed BEFORE Jesus established the New Covenant, and this proves that it only applied to select people, not everyone. He has everyone turn to and read Matthew and John to "prove" it. Except Matthew doesn't have Jesus dismissing Judas at all, just goes from saying that one of 12 at the table would betray him straight to the bread and wine. John has Jesus dismissing Judas, but he doesn't include the New Covenant at all. And they conveniently don't read Luke, where Judas is explicitly shown as still being present after the wine and bread are passed. Mark just copies Matthew, for the most part.
I look around, and everyone just sits there and nods. The Society blatantly misrepresents the scriptures right in front of everyone, and all you have to do is read the surrounding verses in the very passages the speaker is reading to prove it. And still no one sees it.
It's so ballsy, and yet so effective, that it's a wonder to behold.
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New Watchtower Subliminal image just uploaded
by artcritic inthis picture was taken from the official jw site.
just uploaded this one.
its new and unseen .
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There's nothing quite so fascinating to watch as someone's pattern-recognition part of the brain malfunction and go into overdrive.
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Ayn Rand - Opinions?
by cappytan infor those of you familiar with ayn rand and her ideas on morality, rationality and reason, what is your opinion of those ideas?.
i'm talking about her actual ideas, not the ideals that libertarianism has adopted and, in some cases, perverted.
do you think she's a charlatan?
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Ayn Rand - Opinions?
by cappytan infor those of you familiar with ayn rand and her ideas on morality, rationality and reason, what is your opinion of those ideas?.
i'm talking about her actual ideas, not the ideals that libertarianism has adopted and, in some cases, perverted.
do you think she's a charlatan?
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There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
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Does anybody know anything about Roger Bentley, mentioned starting at about 6:12 in the video? A caption in the video says "former elder". I know he could still be a JW and just not be an elder, but I'm curious as to whether he left JWdom. He seems to be level-headed.
I was wondering the same. I can't imagine he's still in, especially considering he was revealing confidential letters right there to the press.
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Status of people shunned before rule change?
by rebel8 inback in the early 1980s, some congregations were "disassociating" unbaptized people who committed alleged disfellowshipping offenses and weren't repentant.
it was announced from the platform in the same way, "so and so is disassociated," followed by 1 scripture about shunning and another about the specific sin that person had committed.
the ritual shunning was exactly the same as dfing.
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I only knew of one person growing up who was announced as being "no longer an approved associate" and everyone shunned, before the unbaptized publisher "arrangement". But they were back in (and then baptized) well before 1988.
Wasn't it rumored it was done away with because of some legal reason? Like, it opened up the society to defamation of character lawsuits, since the person wasn't actually a member or something?
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So its the Elders School this Weekend.......
by Slidin Fast inwhat is the focus for this one.
is it "well lads ring the legal department but if anything goes wrong, you are on your own.
the cs deals with all that".
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They actually used the term "Non-Practicing Gay" in the school?
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Another subliminal picture in the WT!!!!
by DATA-DOG ini just happend to wonder if the current issue had any hidden goodies.
imagine my delight!.
a gold star to the first person to correctly identify the image!.
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Yes, some people certainly don't help to dispell the WTBS's suggestion that people who leave are mentally diseased.
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When Was Jerusalem Destroyed By The Babylonians?
by Smart incan someone explain in easy to understand language what this argument is all about.
i am not that clever.
i am hoping to talk to the elders about this as well as whoever is willing to talk about it on here.
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That is correct. The NWT translates Jeremiah 29:10 as "seventy years AT Babylon", most other versions translate it as "seventy years FOR Babylon" or something similar. The latter would be more in harmony with Jeremiah 25:9-12, which says (even in the NWT) that the 70 years applies to Babylon's dominance of the surrounding nations. Which works, because 70 years before 539 (when Babylon was defeated by the Persians) is roughly when Babylon conquered the Assyrians, and the start of their regional domination began.